“We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor” — Snowden did this more than most people. He risked it all to do what he thought he had to do for his country.
if obozo dont like him, he must be a good guy........
Eric Snowden is a POS traitor who’s actions jeopardized patriot’s lives. I retired from active duty in ‘02 & I was read out of programs that I’m sure have been declassified by now. Yet out of a sense of deep seeded patriotism I’ll never speak of programs that I know protected American lives. To see this Snowden coward embraced by some conservatives shakes my confidence in conservatism. Cheney is RIGHT, Snowden is not a patriot!
Does anyone with more sense than a rock (necessarily excludes Progressives) think for a second that they are building a gigantic data storage site in Utah just to keep the phone number, length of call, etc. metadata information that could easily be stored on a couple large servers? They are collecting all the information for calls, emails, financial transactions, and every thing electronic.
He is neither hero, nor a traitor, but luckily for us, many of his actions will have benefited us.
Rulebook SEZ don’t do it, but SNOWDEN DID..! Dat BAD...! >:(
Plus LOTS of suckaz with *short hair* ALSO sed heez baaaad..!
An lossa folks who don’ smoke da pot also no like him..!
Scrambled egg hat guys sed he bad, so he real bad...!!!
ALWAYS do whut people abuv you SAY..!!! Safe, an stuff..!
I got me a flag sticker and I was big-time Army, see? We got regs, and stuff...! RULES....!
RULES IS GOOD AN’ STUFF...!!! >_<
SNOWDEN BAAAAD...!!
Snowden is an ethically challenged useful idiot who did not use the resources available to him to make his concerns known to those who are responsible.
I do not believe, at the moment, they have to ability to “listen” to all phone conversations, but, with the phone numbers in the meta data they can rapidly drill down and listen to the conversations of interest if the conversations are recorded. It is when conversations can be analyzed in real time that I believe that the boundary has been overstepped. Your conduct is in the national interest and you have to prove you are innocent instead of proven guilty.
I don’t see him as a hero. He was a leftist, who took the oath of secrecy with the deliberate intention of violating it. I don’t think he is a very nice guy.
That said, no question that what he did has benefitted the country, especially because he did it while Obama was in charge. Probably he would have been happier doing it when Bush was in charge, but never mind.
I think this is a case of the left betraying the left—an internal quarrel in the ranks of liberals. But I certainly agree that it has done a lot more good than harm.
Right after 9-11 there was something people said:
“If we change the way we live, THEN THE TERRORISTS WIN..!!”
They had a point, but it was repeated so often that it seemed almost vapid:
“Tropical shirt today..? Or maybe the toned-down one...?”
“TROPICAL shirt, bro..! Don’t change, man..! Tone it down and the TERRORISTS WIN, MAN..!”
Silly, but you catch my drive. AND YET:
Observe just how incredibly much people are asking us to change now, will you? Tell me:
WHICH of our founders would have approved of the intercept and storage of ALL of our electronic communication..?
Can’t you see that even if we permitted the intercept of just 1% of it that we would no longer be America..? Yet we are permitting FAR more than that.
If we want to remain a free country then we profit immeasurable more by staying out of unnecessary wars and preventing the immigration of dangerous people —that’s MUCH cheaper, more feasible and will not compromise our basic institutions.
I have to agree. Snowden did what he had to do and what he should do.
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Politico dissing Obama? Tell me it aint so.
Yes, Obama was going to do this ANYWAY even if there was no Snowden.
And you can keep your doctor and health insurance policy too. And it cuts the deficit.
Scoundrels pretending patriots always wrap themselves in the flag. Now they wrap themselves in the Office!
Amy of Amy’s Bakery Company makes more sense in her guest appearance this evening than these saber waving would-be Snowden executioners, I tell ya!
Snowden is a patriot!! He unmasked the NSA like no one else has
Only downside is that Obama intentionally forced him to seek asylum in Russia where Putin will get every single NSA intel he has. I predict NSA will be wailing for more billions in “black” funding from Congress to fix this Russia situation with Russia now knowing (virtually) everything and being able to piece together the rest.
How stupid greedy and lax was the NSA to allow Snowden to download (acquire) this treasure trove? The NSA relationship with its contractors is totally corrupt and involves bribes kickbacks and revolving door employment
Obama is the traitor not Ed Snowden
The arithmetic is simple: if Snowden is a traitor, then Obama, under whom NSA operates, is a hero who represents this nation’s best interests.
You cannot avoid this conclusion cake owners, and, simultaneously, eaters.
Snowden surrendered his fortune, his country, his life, because he feared for the future of America. PERIOD. That makes him a hero. PERIOD.
Assuming the NSA has been storing and analyzing vast amounts of communication data, then someone high-up must know who Obama really is and to whom he gets his financial resources and directions? Maybe the same folks are controlling the NSA higher ups?