Skip to comments.Obama Quietly Signs Firearm And Ammo Killswitch Order
Posted on 08/13/2013 5:22:50 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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When Boehner & co are kicked out of congress. With Vichy Repubs controlling congress, Obama will do what he wants.
The Executive Order in question is about Export controls, contrary to the article for this thread claiming import controls.
Do Executive Orders Violate the Constitution?
Presidents can issue executive orders that are legally binding on the general public.
These executive orders are backed by the full force of law just like laws passed through the formal legislative process.
A president can use executive orders to go around congress.
The president can use executive orders to modify laws passed by congress and can order executive departments to selectively enforce provisions of laws.
These executive orders are authorized by the Constitution.
Yes the president can issue executive orders however these orders are only binding on members of the executive department of the federal government. They are not legally binding on anyone outside the executive department.
Only laws passed through the formal legislative process have full force of law. Executive orders do not meet this requirement.
Congress alone has the power to write and pass laws. If congress chooses not to pass laws that the president advocates for the president can in no way act unilaterally. The president is restrained by the Constitution.
The president must enforce laws that are passed by the formal legislative process as they are written. If the president does not like a bill passed by congress or feels it violates the Constitution then the president can veto it before it becomes law.
Issuing executives orders that are given the full force of law is a clear violation of several provisions of the Constitution.
I wonder how many are going to get it.
“prevented the United States from both importing and exporting weapons”
Exception for for shoulder fired surface to air missiles...?
As soon as the Press becomes "Conservative."
Of course. If one wants water at point B from point A....one must first build the infrastructure before opening the flood gates.
I get the sense that this is what is being done with this regulation. But then, I trust no one.
When did Congress ratify this treaty? Or do they just not care as long as they get their pay and perks? The French got one thing right with that revolution of theirs. they removed a lot of over head.
It was Bush 41 that stuck us with the Arms Export Control Act. It was that act that made it virtually impossible for us to re-import WW II lend lease small arms and it’s been screwed up ever since. Throw that in with the import limitations of the 1968 GCA and Obamuzzie has all the authority he needs to ban export/import of most anything small arms related. Those are the basic reasons that numerous Euro arms makers have opened mills here——so they can get access to our market. So far they were able to make most of the parts in their old Euro plants then just finish them here. This new Obammuzzie deal looks like it can stop even the small parts imports.
I guess you can say that if trade is totally stopped then it has indeed been “streamlined”——no delays, no lines, no waiting——no nothing!
You’re right except it wasn’t executive order——it was the Arms Import/Export Control Act (sp). Bush 41 started the big double cross with respect to firearms. I believed at the time that he had no freeekin idea what he was signing.
That EO is all about Exports. The EO rumored in the article is all about Imports.
It is beginning to look like the article is dead wrong.
Oh, well. [Sigh.] Obama, leader of all politically involved people, has decreed and delivered the edict. All who possess firearms and ammunition are henceforth banned and outlawed. May as well give up and not bother reading any more news on the matter or having any involvement in political activities.
This treaty must be voted down, it can not be allowed to merely stand as obeyed but not ratified.
killing the treaty neuters all obamas actions on this.
I expect the Pubs will get a study going on that right away until the issue fades away.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist..
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I didnt speak up,
because I wasnt a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no-one left
to speak out.
“When is Congress going to say, Enough is enough?”
Never. Just as in 1775/1776, it will require the action of citizens.
The collapse of U. S. currency will be the bellwether of the end. When shop owners stop taking food stamps (EBT cards), you’ll know it’s over.
recent developments ignored by the mainstream media
Time to STOCKPILE arms & ammo!!
My guess would be that it contains unicode that is clashing with HTML.
Hello , NRA! Have YOU joined yet?
Busting down a door in the middle of the night amid a huge sweep to grab guns is one thing. Maybe you go out in a righteous firefight, but you know your neighbors and buddies (wherever they are) will be going thru the same thing and maybe you'll all meet up in Heaven and hoist a cold beer to each other's patriotism. But being faced with the prospect of going it alone and being prosecuted alone is going to be somewhat more... daunting.
Just ask the poor guys in the military, the officer (I think he was a doctor) and the enlisted man (SP/4 Michael New?) who refused to follow orders to deploy under U.N. command and got a court martial for their trouble and oh yeah, jail terms. The enlisted guy went to jail for sure. Not sure about the Doc, but he lost his career and any chance to continue that outside the military, so that's pretty awful. A lot of folks were "pulling for them" and raising cash for appeals etc, but those folks were still going home to the family (and off to work the next day) while the two making the valiant gestures are still either in prison or having a ruined life. Alone with the reality that the world didn't stop and the NWO marched right along and over top of their bodies. I keep watching that series "Beyond Scared Straight" and thinking about that reality. Such an E.O. doesn't have to be universal in it's application to still be frighteningly effective.
“When is Congress going to say, Enough is enough?”
They are in a club of political elites, and most of us are not it it. Congress rarely stands up for our rights. They are too busy with their palm out looking for handouts from lobbyists to get reelected. The elites want the serfs disarmed, and that is the way it has been in all recorded history. Both Parties talk about freedom and liberty while neither gives a hoot.
“The GOP has the votes to impeach, but they tucked tail and dont want to rock the boat. In my eyes, the GOP is helping Obama and are equally guilty.”
An impeachment will only potentially suck in and involve their own corruption as well as those who control both Parties. Too much money on the table buys and takes out checks and balances.
That shouldn't happen. HTML uses ASCII characters to indicate mark-up, Unicode is a superset of ASCII, therefore any unicode document should be parsable as HTML.
(Granted you can do screwy things like reversing byte-order, but that should turn the whole document into gibberish, if anything.)
When will be demanded we bow before a statue of his likeness?
The only way things will change is if the media starts having cross hairs superimposed on them
Don’t tease the monkeys
I just read that the Gov. is buying 300,000,000 rds of 7.62x39, plus an untold number of 9x18 Makarov rds., plus other foreign ammo. I imagine it’s to keep it out of our hands, or resupply the Arab rebels.
They won’t. With a precious few exceptions, they ARE the enemy.
Part of the 23 EO’s from January...Obama still hasn’t signed the UN arms treaty...won’t be ratified by the Senate. If signed by POTUS it just sits in “limbo” waiting for a bigger Dem majority in the Senate?
It is time to legally remove the defiant Obama from office. He is an enemy of the US Constitution. In by-passing congress he becomes a world-class dictator right beside Stalin and Hitler.
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
Sadly, I think you’re right.
You are correct, sir, but certainly you can feel which way the wind blows...?
You say that like it means anything.
How about “When the Constitution, again, reigns as the Law of the land”
I read, even here, how ‘Conservatives’ back SS/Medicare (they ‘paid into’), Federal War on Drugs, etc.
“...Shall not be Infringed....”
Every single day you can’t carry from coast to coast, it’s being infringed.
Every time they tell you that you can’t own whatever they deem scary, it’s being infringed.
Every time you go to buy ammo and can’t, it’s being infringed.
Every time you go to buy a firearm, and you’re told there’s a “Cooling Off Period” or waiting period of some kind, or you’re asked to show a FOID, it’s being infringed.
What do you want to DO about it is the question...
And 2nd amendment concerns quite aside, almost every single one of these restrictions is a tilt at windmills, that hobbles honest people much worse than it does dishonest ones.
“..hat hobbles honest people much worse than it does dishonest ones...”
Which is exactly as they were designed to do.
So - you either choose to obey. Or you don’t.
Choices have consequences. But it’s still a choice. And every American needs to decide what that choice is.
I don't live in a cave and neither do millions of freedom loving Americans across our nation.
Actions the IRS are taking are also infringing on our rights to Vote and Upholding the constitution
through freedom to petition our Government, by organizing traditional protests against ALL.
I certainly hope our Government is coming to a headway in their unconstitutional actions
and the tide turns. Many are doing something about it, and I can only help fund
those who are because I do have a company to run. We all pitch in however we can.
“..We all pitch in however we can....”
Wasn’t criticizing you, friend. I am sure you are.
There’s only so much each of us can do.
I teach people to shoot and also gun safety. That’s my part.
Not real good with sarcasm, are you?
Sorry I did forget to read w/ that in mind and state the same succinctly. ;)
Barack Obama is reportedly going to sign the treaty this month while Congress is on vacation.
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