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Texas megachurch run by vaccine-denying preacher battles measles outbreak (Kenneth Copeland)
Daily Mail ^ | 8/28/2013

Posted on 08/31/2013 10:54:12 PM PDT by iowamark

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1 posted on 08/31/2013 10:54:12 PM PDT by iowamark
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Robert Hayes, risk manager with Kenneth Copeland Ministries, said they have held several vaccination clinics since the outbreak.
2 posted on 08/31/2013 10:56:15 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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how many of those that contracted measles had the vaccination already?


3 posted on 08/31/2013 10:59:50 PM PDT by I got the rope
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looks like both vaccinated and unvaccinated contracted the disease. who got better faster I wonder? hmmm


4 posted on 08/31/2013 11:01:04 PM PDT by I got the rope
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there are always some risks to vaccinations, sometimes perhaps more than are acknowledged

but then again, there are risks to NOT getting vaccinations, too.

life is unfair, then you die.

it may be wiser to ask the good pastor about that (the next life), rather than relying too much on his medical advice for this life?


5 posted on 08/31/2013 11:10:15 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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herd immunity only goes so far.

Looks like some lessons need to be re-learned. The hard way so it seems. Globull warming, ozone hole, NSA spying lies - not surprising that few believe anything the govt says.

This is one of those times that doubt (and lack of immunization) will cause suffering.

6 posted on 08/31/2013 11:13:50 PM PDT by corkoman
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I agree with your post. There are risks either way, but one should rely upon medical sources of information for medical decisions.

Vacination is not a cure all. Not much is said about the drawbacks, but they do exist. I think that a good frame of health is most important, with fresh foods, as illness like mumps and measles are usually of short duration if the patient is strong and well.


7 posted on 08/31/2013 11:21:36 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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Bump


8 posted on 08/31/2013 11:29:40 PM PDT by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: iowamark

Scam flim flam man


9 posted on 08/31/2013 11:33:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: I got the rope

At least 4 people of the people who got it were vaccinated, and possibly 1 additional. 16 were confirmed unvaccinated. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective which is why it is important that everyone get the,


10 posted on 08/31/2013 11:35:23 PM PDT by Wayne07
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Sometimes, medicine works faster than prayer.


11 posted on 08/31/2013 11:35:57 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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we almost agree.
mumps and measles can be dangerous for little kids at times.
also, the measles virus can stay in you for years and then resurface again and you got shingles in your old age.
shingles can be very difficult for some people.

so.....I tend to take the vaccinations. I realize there are some risks with both the active and sometimes the inactive agents. So, I do not push other people to get all the vaccinations, but if they ask my opinion I tell them I get the shots myself...

at least we have these options available to us!!!
the most powerful and richest kings of just a couple hundred years ago....and Napoleon and all the rest...never had these opportunities


12 posted on 08/31/2013 11:40:34 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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In the 60’s and early 70’s, before the vaccine, there were half a million cases a year, and 500 measles deaths a year in the US - about 1 out of every 1000 cases. Judge risk against that.


13 posted on 08/31/2013 11:41:53 PM PDT by Wayne07
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What I think is interesting - neither I nor any of my friends had measles vaccinations back in the early 1940’s, nor did my children or their friends. Rather a common practice to go ahead and expose your kids to them when they were small and then we just didn’t worry about it. Same thing with chicken pox and mumps. Only vaccination my kids had was for DPT.


14 posted on 08/31/2013 11:44:43 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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mumps and measles can be dangerous for little kids at times. also, the measles virus can stay in you for years and then resurface again and you got shingles in your old age. shingles can be very difficult for some people.

Shingles is varicella-zoster - the chicken pox virus, not measles.

How many of the infected suffered serious, long-term effects from contracting measles? There seems to be a bit of an overreaction to this, as if everyone who contracted the measles suffered a horrible death.

15 posted on 08/31/2013 11:51:48 PM PDT by Shethink13
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How can one possibly love God and his neighbor if one is willing to let people die of diseases that God has given us the intellect to cure? That is like walking past an injured traveler rather than lending them aid like a good Samaritan. God gave us our brains for a reason.


16 posted on 08/31/2013 11:52:00 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Shethink13

oops sorry about that mistake.
thanks


17 posted on 08/31/2013 11:53:32 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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Being cured by something created be man is a sin. Same with eating certain foods and wearing certain types of cloth.


18 posted on 08/31/2013 11:55:16 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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Remember March of Dimes drives. German measles was a top five cause of birth defects.

Immunization has greatly reduced congenital birth defects.


19 posted on 08/31/2013 11:56:15 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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"a pastor who has openly questioned the benefits of modern medicine"

So if you are against having children forcibly medicated by the government, you are against modern medicine.

20 posted on 08/31/2013 11:58:00 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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