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Defiant House Delays Obamacare; Government Shutdown Looms
CNN ^ | September 29, 2013 | Tom Cohen and Holly Yan

Posted on 09/29/2013 5:58:57 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

In a move that makes a government shutdown very likely, House Republicans approved a spending plan early Sunday morning that would delay Obamacare for a year and repeal its tax on medical devices.

The temporary budget resolution now goes back to the Senate, where Democrats have consistently said any changes to President Barack Obama's signature healthcare law is a deal-killer.

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The decision to vote on the House amendments overnight emerged from a rare weekend GOP caucus meeting called by House Speaker John Boehner. The votes, taken after midnight, were 231-192 for the Obamacare delay, and 248-174 for the medical device tax repeal, mostly along party lines.

Two Democrats broke rank and voted for the Obamacare delay: Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, and Jim Matheson of Iowa.

Seventeen Democrats voted for the tax repeal. Meanwhile, a bill to guarantee pay for military personnel during any shutdown passed 423-0.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; govtshutdown; iowa; jimmatheson; johnboehner; mikemcintyre; northcarolina; obamacare; ohio; zerocare
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To: Graewoulf; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...
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The question to be asked is: “If it is in the Nation’s best interest to shut down the Government, ... then why are there only TWO Federal Politicians, Obama and Reid, loudly advocating shutting down the US Federal Government?

Obama has MANY reasons to shutdown the Federal Government such as:

. . . . Check out # 93, -- also see Reid's motivation.

Thanks, Graewoulf.

121 posted on 09/30/2013 10:30:44 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Of course, CNN would spin this as the House is being defiant.


122 posted on 09/30/2013 10:51:49 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Oh if the government shuts down I intend to riot inthe streets as mass chaos and panic sets in.....

/sarc

Just kidding I am sure it won’t really affect me one way or another...

Maybe the Obama care door to door coaches won’t show up and I will be lonely and have to rely on Jehova Witlesses and Mormon Missionaries to keep me company....


123 posted on 09/30/2013 11:49:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: JPG

They are in session today, aren’t they?


124 posted on 09/30/2013 11:50:21 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Utah Binger
But you already knew that.

Possibly; but now the WORLD knows!!

125 posted on 09/30/2013 11:50:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPG

Nevermind, I should pay attention to dates.


126 posted on 09/30/2013 11:51:21 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Utah Binger
But you already knew that.

Possibly; but now the WORLD knows!!


Jim’s biggest problem can be summed up in two words: Mia Love.

In a related story...


One of her relatives died in the area recently...
 
 
 
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127 posted on 09/30/2013 11:54:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Starboard

“You’re right. Secession is coming, but it can take several forms and in the future is unlikely to resemble anything like the violent CW split. There are far more sophisticated alternatives and options.”

That’s just the thing, the reasoned and sophisticated options tend to go out the window PDQ. So I think that bloodshed will end up being the order of the day. Hence my most of my opposition to secession.

I think it’s probably time to start discussing options before it’s staring us in the face.


128 posted on 09/30/2013 12:24:56 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Mark17

“Well, let us try for sure.”

I believe this will end very badly if we don’t, so I guess it is time to put ideas on the table.


129 posted on 09/30/2013 12:27:20 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: butterdezillion

Obamacare has been ruled Constitutional as a Tax.
Has Congress ever exempted itself from a Tax as a matter of policy?


130 posted on 09/30/2013 12:45:37 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RKBA Democrat
I believe this will end very badly if we don’t, so I guess it is time to put ideas on the table.

Yes, ideas on the table, and prayers to God, at the same time.

131 posted on 09/30/2013 1:00:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks. Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013 Vietnam Vet)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Good question. Is it Constitutional for them to exempt themselves from a tax?


132 posted on 09/30/2013 1:05:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Mark17

“Yes, ideas on the table, and prayers to God, at the same time.”

You think a ping/prayer list would be a good idea? No one else in the blogosphere seems to want to discuss the gorilla in the living room.


133 posted on 09/30/2013 1:15:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat
You think a ping/prayer list would be a good idea? No one else in the blogosphere seems to want to discuss the gorilla in the living room.

Well, it might be a good idea, my friend, but I am kind of a follower, rather than a leader. I wait for others to start it, then I follow it. When they said, lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way, I followed.

134 posted on 09/30/2013 1:35:42 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: Da Coyote

The NYTimes has published this afternoon, a guide to exchanges and more for Obamacare. Sounds like it’s a done deal.


135 posted on 09/30/2013 2:15:31 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Hang in there House.


136 posted on 09/30/2013 2:17:21 PM PDT by sport
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Ok I just tried to check out the Michigan Health Exchange and it was a giant cluster F. We should let this train derail man, it is that bad. People are going to want to kill democrats on sight, this is going to be like 2 April 15ths. Actually 12 tax days because every month people will be forced to pay D.C. hundreds of dollars.

Concentrate on Freezing hell, LOWER THE DEBT CEILING. AND....PASS A LAW AGAINST QE.


137 posted on 09/30/2013 9:57:51 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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138 posted on 09/30/2013 10:01:00 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Mark17; Starboard; Windflier; noprogs; Political Junkie Too
Secession and Anti-Secession Ping and Prayer list
Stories and commentary both for and against secession.

To be added or taken off this list, please send a FR mail to RKBA Democrat. DISCLOSURE: I'm ANTI-secession, but I'll attempt to administer the ping and prayer list fairly for both the seceshers and anti-seceshers. Search the keyword "secessionlist" to see previous articles and pings.

139 posted on 09/30/2013 10:25:11 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat
“You’re right. Secession is coming, but it can take several forms and in the future is unlikely to resemble anything like the violent CW split.

Yes.

We could designate half the states Liberal and the other half Conservative, and form TWO different countries, with each group moving to consolidate themselves in their selected geographical area.

THEN we could see how each of the respective goverments would rule.


After all; it worked with East and West Pakistan, when British rule was lifted from the Indian sub continent.

And It's worked out pretty good with Israel and 'Palestine'.

I'll bet it would be as peaceful as Ireland and Northern Ireland, too!

140 posted on 10/01/2013 3:46:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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