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Sticker Shock: Californians suddenly discover why all the Republican shouting over #Obamacare.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/06/california-exchanges-sticker-shock-obamacare/ ^ | 10-6-2013 | Moe Lane

Posted on 10/06/2013 9:55:10 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

Meet Tom Waschura, Californian, father of two – oh, and right: Obama supporter. Just got a letter from his healthcare provider telling him that his private health insurance just went up by ten grand a year:

“I was laughing at Boehner — until the mail came today,” Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family’s pocket each year, that’s otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy.”

Let me tell you a secret: we don’t need people like Mr. Waschura to love us. We just need people like him to vote their class interests, to quote the Marxists who unaccountably confidently expect this rotating disaster of a health care rationing system to fuel public outcry for socialized medicine. They don’t have to vote Republican forever, you know. We’ll be happy if they vote Republican just enough to allow the party to kill this thing. With that in mind, let me just be the first to assure Mr. Waschura that his hope that the rates will be adjusted down in a few years is only half-justified: left unchecked, they will be adjusted. Only upwards. The Democrats always expected and planned that Obamacare would be funded by raiding the incomes of as many people as possible; making the insurance companies the mechanism for jacking up premiums was the only way to get the insurance companies on-board.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; itsallfree; obamacare; price4idiot10k; redistribution; reparations; shock; sticker; surfcityfool; tomwaschura; zerocare
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actually, the funniest line is when he said he doesn’t like republican tactics.


61 posted on 10/06/2013 11:16:21 AM PDT by willywill
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To: Venturer
When this thing starts stinging all of the working families and working Americans in a couple of years there is going to be such a scream that Democrat are going to have to go into hiding.

The problem is that all of the "working" families are too busy working to do anything about this (and before you say it, voting is useless anymore). The hired rent-a-mobs who will be getting the actual "free" healthcare (although they don't realize it yet, but "free" means take a pill or "put some ice on it") can be ginned up and bussed around to make it look like there is an actual public outcry for more Obamacare. Short of Mark Levin's proposal to return liberty to America, blood will have to be spilled to return us to a Constitutional Republic. With the masks coming off of the Communists in charge of our country right now, there is no way in heck that they will back down politically. They will have to be forced out. We are Egypt, and the Moslem Brotherhood is in charge.

62 posted on 10/06/2013 11:18:49 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Dallas59

“Just wait till the Illegal Mexicans start screaming for health care! International Health Care he we come!”

jokes today, become reality tomorrow.


63 posted on 10/06/2013 11:19:11 AM PDT by willywill
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


64 posted on 10/06/2013 11:20:01 AM PDT by Absolutely Spiffing Old Bean
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Liberalism (socialism) is a total FAILURE and the best example of liberal (socialism) failure is the City of Detroit. Obama and his cronies are still trying to bail this shit hole out with our tax dollars, just recently, another $300,000.000 million dollars down the shit hole of Detroit. Before the liberal turds took control (racist Coleman Young and company) private and open free market enterprises built the most successful, modern, and highest income City in the world. Just a short 70 years later, they are dozing the shit hole and burying it, like a cat that just took a giant shit in a sand trap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reality really does hurt, but, most liberal socialist simply refuse to admit, liberalism is a FAILURE, no matter how, when, or where it is tried! these Obama mama supporters are now just starting to figure that out, not because it is as plain as the nose on their respective faces, but, because, liberalism is taking a bite out of their back pockets!

Mrs. Thatcher (Iron Lady), the last conservative Prime Minister of Great Britain once stated: “Socialist never tire of spending other people's money.”

Soooooooooo true!!

65 posted on 10/06/2013 11:20:01 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: hope_dies_last

Here’s the Obamacare Medicaid expansion map, if you’re interested:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/health/map-obamacare/
http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/tools-for-advocates/guides/federal-poverty-guidelines.html

The way the Medicaid expansion works is that adults with income amounting to less than 138% of the poverty threshold are eligible for Medicaid without an asset test (i.e. you don’t have to sell your car, your house, etc or draw down your bank balances).

If you decide to work at a retail job or at a fast food chain for minimum wage as a stopgap measure, and you make more than the 138% of poverty threshold, you can benefit from Obamacare even in states that don’t do the Medicaid expansion. For instance, someone who works two retail jobs and makes $16K a year will get insurance coverage for $45 a month. The true cost of the coverage is $7330 per year, but the federal budget pays for $6791 of that amount.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/#state=tx&zip=77002&income-type=dollars&income=16000&employer-coverage=0&people=1&adult-count=1&adults[0][age]=40&adults[0][tobacco]=0&adults[1][age]=21&adults[1][tobacco]=0&child-count=3&child-tobacco=0

As with the Medicaid expansion, there is no asset test to be eligible for Obamacare, meaning you don’t have to sell or draw down any assets to qualify.


66 posted on 10/06/2013 11:21:15 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

At this point I dont give a shi’ite how many 0bama supporters suffer.


67 posted on 10/06/2013 11:23:25 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: rrrod

He’ll be fine - he’s probably worth tens of millions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyntheSys_Research


68 posted on 10/06/2013 11:25:35 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Dallas59

“International Health Care”....

Oh that too is coming, without a doubt...and once that happens even your job will be farmed out to them...or they’ll get hired before you here...which of course is already happening.


69 posted on 10/06/2013 11:25:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Hitler’s supporters also had a big disappointment in their leader!!! But they also worshiped him prior to that!


70 posted on 10/06/2013 11:34:20 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: sheikdetailfeather
“I was laughing at Boehner — until the mail came today,” Waschura said

Ah, the sweet sound of an Obama stooge realizing he's been had...bad. Why, if it weren't for the blatant multiple violations of the US Constitution, the appalling intrusion on the rights of private citizens, the illegal expansion of federal government power, the likely degradation of the US healthcare system and the stifling of technological innovations in healthcare, and the grim consequences for the US economy - you know, all those little things - why, it might just be worth it to hear all of the Democratic Party's useful idiots squeal as they realize that they're the ones being screwed.
71 posted on 10/06/2013 11:37:39 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks sheikdetailfeather.
Tom Waschura, Californian, father of two -- oh, and right: Obama supporter. Just got a letter from his healthcare provider telling him that his private health insurance just went up by ten grand a year: "...I really don't like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family's pocket each year, that's otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy." Let me tell you a secret: we don’t need people like Mr. Waschura to love us. We just need people like him to vote their class interests, to quote the Marxists who unaccountably confidently expect this rotating disaster of a health care rationing system to fuel public outcry for socialized medicine. They don’t have to vote Republican forever, you know. We'll be happy if they vote Republican just enough to allow the party to kill this thing.
In California, we need them to be angry enough about their own gullibility and stupidity (because Obama's been very obvious in his many many lies, since day one) to recall the Demwit politicians, or better yet, rend them limb from limb at a town hall meeting and throw their carcasses in the carbon-credit dumpsters.


72 posted on 10/06/2013 11:42:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Zhang Fei
The GOP needs rich people to vote their class interests and working and middle class people to vote their religious principles. In practice, we can get most non-union working and middle class people to vote those principles, but the rich has its collective nose too high up in the air to want to be associated with the hoi polloi right. to get bent.

The majority of the GOP are part of the problem.

"When in times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - It's why Cornyn, McConell, McCain etc are pissed at Cruz.

The only reason Bonehead and Cantor haven't caved is they realize the people are royally p'od and they're trying to protect their phony baloney jobs.

73 posted on 10/06/2013 11:50:46 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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74 posted on 10/06/2013 11:53:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
He would Vote for Obama a third time if he could. The Prisoners in the Gulags cried when Stalin died.

Ditto, ditto, and again ditto! You are 100% correct.

75 posted on 10/06/2013 11:54:59 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The income tax was a means for the Democrats to take some of the working man’s WAGES. Obamacare is a means for the Democrats to take a piece of the working man’s/woman’s BENEFITS. Who benefits from more government employees, Democrats or Republicans? The Democrats feel that they are entitled to some of everything that is yours.


76 posted on 10/06/2013 11:57:32 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Life’s tough.Its tougher when you’re stupid.This moron takes the prize.


77 posted on 10/06/2013 12:02:14 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

We’ll tell us Mr. Kalifornia, just what tactics would you suggest we use against this sociopath? Suck it up and consider your increased healthcare premium a belated campaign donation to Obama/Biden, 2008 and 2012.


78 posted on 10/06/2013 12:02:47 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: sheikdetailfeather

What did the californian say when somenone called him a ditznifornian?

He said, “Ditznifornian? I don’t get it.”


79 posted on 10/06/2013 12:02:57 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants to convert his suicidal worshipers into suicidal bombers.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Yet, these well-educated dupes only understand that fire burns once they're being immolated.
80 posted on 10/06/2013 12:09:28 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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