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Stryker MGS

1 posted on 10/16/2013 10:00:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The Buford M8 AGS (Armored Gun System) is a better choice than Stryker GMS. Unfortunately the M8 was canceled by the Army. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M8_Armored_Gun_System
2 posted on 10/16/2013 10:06:56 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Anything is air-droppable...once.”


3 posted on 10/16/2013 10:09:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Fewer calories I guess. Everyone needs to look fabulous these days if you want to get promoted.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 10:13:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sherman tank. Must be some sitting in a depot somewhere just waiting to roar back to life. Big plus is that they can be carried on the C-130.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 10:21:22 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Is this light enough?


6 posted on 10/16/2013 10:28:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Would you want your local PD with this? That’s their argument. The first thing they would want to do is use it in the open and it would be cut to pieces.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 11:16:43 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The limiter is not the vehicle, it’s the platform the vehicle will be dropped from. The Herc is still a great aircraft, but it’s tiny. The Galaxy has more wasted space under its tail than the 130 has in its entire cargo bay. I’d rather see them focus on finding ways to use the C-17 in this role, which would dramatically expand the possible candidates.


13 posted on 10/16/2013 11:28:46 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

oh good....bammmey gets to award his supporters with some more spending sprees....


15 posted on 10/16/2013 11:45:51 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Full Circle.

16 posted on 10/17/2013 12:14:45 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I worked for GD. The Army begged us for a light tank. GD said, “Well, give us, oh, say $10,000,000 and we’ll do a design study. But we only do heavy armor and you only want heavy armor.” The Stryker is 26 tons (Abrams is 70 tons). The army wanted lighter but couldn’t get the money for a design study. The trend has been that companies invest their own money and then present their product to the military.

AM General, Oshkosh and Force Protection each invested about 1.5 billion of their own money and produced a “tank” based on a 6 ton chassis. The army loved it and took GD’s Abrams upgrade money and the Stryker money and bought lots of them. My guess is this will be the next “light” tank.

The army has attempted to get rid of the Abrams as they have several flaws that will make them unusable on future battlefields. Perhaps the biggest problem is the logistics stream of tankers required to keep the moving. Those will be vulnerable to RPV’s and other weapons. The next problem is there are now man carried weapons that can take them out from the rear. But the worst problem will be getting them to where they are needed.

So far Congress has prevented the army from dumping Abrams.


23 posted on 10/17/2013 1:57:08 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Light in the loafers tanks.


24 posted on 10/17/2013 3:39:07 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Next they will return stateside to be “donated” to local LEO


25 posted on 10/17/2013 4:33:43 AM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought airborne as in parachutes was dead. As a general rule, the airborne assaults in WW II were not really successful.


26 posted on 10/17/2013 4:38:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bring back the Sheridan! :-)


27 posted on 10/17/2013 4:45:02 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I was expecting more along of the lines of the new "Obama Fabu-Tank" - it's enviro-friendly aggression!


28 posted on 10/17/2013 5:18:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; SLB; Darksheare; ..

Treadhead ping.


32 posted on 10/17/2013 5:36:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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34 posted on 10/17/2013 7:59:48 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I have a better idea. Update, upgun and modernize these and put them back in production:


35 posted on 10/17/2013 12:37:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The MGS is not air droppable from a C-130 thus not meeting specifications. That Doesn’t mean the manufacturer won’t give stock options to the CJCS and Secretary of the Army to change the specs.

The OBVIOUS LOGICAL solution is to adopt the M-8 AGS that had already been accepted and approved for production prior to Clinton and Shinseki having the program cancelled.

There is a Block II variant of the M-8 called the Thunderbolt that had hybrid diesel electric drive,a 120mm main gun, and was so space efficient that there was room for two dismounts and a rear hatch similar to the Merkava MBT. The Thunderbolt was so quiet on battery power, that a safety warning beeper was installed for when it was moving in the factory.

The Armor is upgradable in packages. Level I was the Air Drop configuration. Levels II and III could be added in theater to increase protection.


46 posted on 10/20/2013 12:55:17 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: SLB

FYI


47 posted on 10/20/2013 12:58:08 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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