Hey, here's a *better* thread; don't miss Laz's theories at # 12.
Personally, I wondered if Sarah Palin was involved. /s
Thanks, azishot.
It serves the leftist’s agenda better if they can brainwash enough folks into thinking it was a “vast, right-wing conspiracy.” Never mind the fact that the shooter was a open and avowed communist.
Oswald definitely did it. The only question is why? It certainly didn’t further soviet interests
“Face it: Oswald did it”
Maybe.
Oswald might have done it.
The fact that a hard core America hater like Oliver Stone tried to peddle a conspiracy theory is good evidence that there was none.
JFK's murder was a Luciferian Masonic human sacrifice. Dallas was picked as the site of sacrifice because it is located close to the 33rd degree of north geographical latitude. Other cities close to this 33rd degree are:
HOW DOES ROUTE 77 FIT?
During my investigations of the Oklahoma City bombing I was struck by the following "coincidences":
These "coincidences" started me thinking about the number 77. Finally, I found this passage in the Bible:
This Lamech was a descendant of the first murderer, Cain, and father of the twins Tubal-Cain, a boy, and Naamah, a girl. Tubal-Cain, "an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron", is a favorite of Luciferian Free Masons, who consider him to be the forefather of Hiram Abiff. Hiram Abiff, of course, is the supposed architect of Solomon's Temple and the central hero of Masonic mythology.
HOW DOES JOHN JOHN KENNEDY FIT?
People who are aware of the Luciferian Masonic Conspiracy instituted to help bring about the Empire of the Antichrist, a.k.a. the New World Order, know that geographic latitude and longitude play an important role in Conspiratorial productions. For example, JFK's ritual sacrifice was performed in Dallas, because that city is close to the N. 33 parallel: the 33rd degree is the highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Masonry. <P>
In a similar fashion, JFK, Jr., was killed and committed to the waters of the Atlantic close to the intersection of the N. 41 parallel and W. 71 meridian; summing up, 4 + 1 + 7 + 1 = 13, the most Masonically correct number. This intersection, southwest of Martha's Vineyard, is also close to the small island called No Mans Land. "No Mans" is a Baconian cypher for "Mason", i.e., Mason Land.
JFK, Jr., and his public wife, Carolyn Bessette, were married on Cumberland Island, off the coast of Georgia. This island is close to the intersection of the N. 31 parallel and the W. 81 meridian; again, 3 + 1 + 8 + 1 = 13. Another important Conspiratorial spot nearby is Jekyll Island, GA. It was there that clandestine Luciferian Masonic (CLuM) Conspirators met to organize the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) known as the Federal Reserve System.
These two geographical intersections are part of a line of similar intersections along the eastern seaboard, whose numbers add up to 13. From south to north, these intersections are:
By connecting these intersections on a map, one draws a line stretching from the Atlantic coastal border of Florida and Georgia to the coastal border of Maine with the Canadian province of New Brunswick. This "13" line, therefore, encompasses the 13 original colonies and, later, states of New Atlantis, a.k.a. the U.S.A. (Back then, Maine was part of the territory of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.) What a CLuM "coincidence"!
Luciferian Masons are fascinated by decapitations and skulls: their predecessors, the Knights Templars, worshipped the Baphomet, a mysterious skull. The Yale-based Masonic-type secret society Skull and Bones keeps the skulls of Mexican and Native American revolutionaries in the Tomb, its on-campus headquarters in New Haven, CT
Similarly, the Masonic-type German secret society Thule initiated Adolf Hitler in its ranks, who later organized the SS. The SS followed Masonic- type secret rituals and their emblem was the Skull and Bones, just like CLuM Brother George W. Bush's fraternity.
CLuMs are great advocates of sodomy, since the Antichrist himself is of a dubious nature. The androgynous nature of the Antichrist is symbolized by the two interlocking triangles of the occult hexagram known as the Star of David, or Seal of Solomon, a prominent Masonic emblem. Again, 4 + 2 + 7 + 0 = 13.
It seems that JFK, Jr., and the two women were also sacrificed to Lucifer/Satan to thank him for the CLuM success of sending men to the moon exactly 30 years ago. The Apollo program itself was kicked off with the ritual sacrifice of President Kennedy in Dallas along the N. 33 parallel. As it has been revealed recently, President Kennedy's original casket was also deep-sixed in the waters of the Atlantic, off the coastal border of Delaware and Maryland, close to this "13" line along the eastern seaboard of New Atlantis. A small part of the President's brain, examined at the autopsy, has been missing for years. It may be that that part of the brain has also been committed to these same waters of the Atlantic, the burial grounds of the legendary "utopia" of Atlantis.
Last, but certainly not least, this "13" line passes within less than five miles from the Hyannis Port compound of the CLuM Kennedy family.
HOW DOES CHARLES LINDBURG FIT?
Examining this "13" line, one sees that it passes near Kitty Hawk, NC, the site of the Wright brothers' first flight. Later on, in 1932, the world- famous aviator, Col. Charles A. Lindbergh, searched for his kidnapped baby son along this "13" line southwest of Martha's Vineyard, close to No Mans Land (Mason Land). As CLuM luck would have it, the Lindbergh family's original name back in Sweden was Mansson, another Baconian cypher for "No Mans". There is good reason to believe that the real grandfather of Col. Lindbergh was the Crown Prince of Sweden and later King Charles XV. Members of the Swedish royal family are prominent patrons of Masonry and the royal family itself is associated with the so-called Luciferian bloodline connected to the "Priory of Zion".
Therefore, it seems that the Lindbergh baby, a likely Luciferian descendant, was offered as a "thanksgiving" sacrifice to Lucifer/Satan for the aviation successes of the Wright brothers and his father, Charley Mansson, a.k.a. Col. Charles A. Lindbergh. As CLuM luck would have it, the Luciferian FBI announced last Thursday, July 22, that it was finally releasing its files on the Lindbergh kidnapping to the National Archives. That was on the exact same day as the JFK, Jr., burial at sea close to the "13" line.
The real name of the Lindbergh family in Sweden was "Mansson", i.e., Man's son, or "Son of Man", and they had dealings with the Swedish royal family, known patrons of Masonry. Therefore, the real name of "Lucky Lindy", Col. Charles Lindbergh, was "Charles Mansson", sound familiar? (The California Charlie Manson had Sharon Tate killed, the wife of director Roman Polansky. Polansky had made the movie "Rosemary's Baby" in 1968, a movie about the birth of the Antichrist.) As CLuM Brother Walt Disney would say, "It's a small world after all'
Does this also mean that the Lindy Hop, Americas folk dance, is a Masonic conspiracy to control the citizens of the world?
Lindbergh was later married to Anne Morrow, daughter of a Wall Street wheeler-dealer and partner of the infamous CLuM J. P. Morgan. (President Kennedy was the son of the Wall Street manipulator and underworld trafficker, CLuM Brother Joseph P. Kennedy.) They had a son named after his famous father, Charles A. Lindbergh, Jr., an analogy to the name of JFK,
The Lindbergh baby was eventually found dead in New Jersey in a field, some two miles away from the house. On Colonel Lindbergh's instructions the badly decomposed body was cremated, leaving no lasting evidence.
The accused Haupttmann maintained his innocence to the end, even though he was offered a commutation of his death sentence in exchange for information on his collaborators. Alas, the man who had stored the ransom money in Hauptmann's garage had died in Germany. Hauptmann had a perfect alibi, but the police covered up evidence by the ton under pressure to solve the "crime of the century".
I think Hauptmann was involved, but did not act alone. I think Col. Linbergh himself was involved in this CLuM sacrifice.
HOW DO UFOs FIT?
Remember that Lucky Lindy was also a fan of CLuM Brother Adolf Hitler, whose goose-stepping storm troops used to parade in Berlin on the Unter den Linden boulevard.
I'm sure that some of you have read about a brilliant scientist named Nikola Tesla. It was his work in science that had brought about modern day UFOs. He and Viktor Schauberger (who exploited Tesla's technology) were the superstars of this new flying disc technology. In WWll, the Nazi's had relied heavily on Tesla's research to create what bomber pilots called "Foo Fighters," and "Kraut Balls." When trying to bomb the Rhine land, these glowing objects would fly right up to the bombers at incredible speeds never seen before or imagined. These Foo Fighters had an charged electrical field that would blow out the bombers electrical systems so that the American pilots would have to call off the mission. After they were out of the area, the "balls of coloured lights" would suddenly take off on their merry way. This is all well documented and there are even some photos that exist today.
The following is from an article called UFO's Alien or Man Made written by Al Pinto.
"The Germans have produced a 'secret' weapon in keeping with the Christmas season. The new device, which is apparently an air defence weapon, and resembles the glass balls that adorn Christmas trees. They have been seen hanging in the air over German territory, sometimes singly, sometimes in clusters. They are coloured silver and are apparently transparent."
Another article regarding the German's secret craft was released by the Associated Press in the New York Herald Tribune dated January 2, 1945. It said:
"Now, it seems, the Nazis have thrown something new into the night skies over Germany. It is the weird, mysterious 'Foo Fighter' balls which race alongside the wings of fighters flying intruder missions over Germany.
Pilots have been encountering this eerie weapon for more than a month in their night flights. No one apparently knows what this sky weapon is. The balls of fire appear suddenly and accompany the planes for miles. They seem to be radio controlled from the ground, so official intelligence reports reveal..."
So why didn't the Nazi's win the war with the new Foo Fighter technology? Well just like the German V-2 Rockets and the new Nazi jets, time had run out. The allies were moving in and the war was being end. Hitler pleaded with the German people to hang on for just two more months so that he release a new technology of "super weapons." Well as you know, time did in fact run out.
When the allies moved in they began to plunder all the new super technology. America began to be the benefactors of this new technology when the war ended in 1945. Two years later in 1947, Kenneth Arnold a pilot sees high speed flying discs. He said they moved like a saucer skipping on water thus the age of "Flying Saucers" was born.
One scientist responsible for the the Nazi flying saucers was Viktor Schauberger. With Tesla's work in hand he began to create new and different designs. After the Soviets had taken what the Americans had left behind in Schauberger's apartment in Leonstein, the Soviets then bombed his apartment. After this there was a rumour that Schauberger had gone on to work on a top secret project for the U.S. Government in Texas.
So why hasn't the government made known this new revolutionary technology. Why, is because one of the other effects that the anti-gravity devices produce is massive amounts of electricity, hundreds of thousands of volts! This is known as "free energy." This kind of electricity is broadcasted out and so does not need wires of any kind. This is why quite often when "UFOs" are seen in an area, all the appliances in a household magically come on.
The world is run by a few super rich people that have untold wealth. At the very heart of this wealth is oil, "black gold." If free energy technology was to be used by the public, these rich elites would stand to loose trillions of dollars in lost revenue.
HOW DOES KURT COBAINS' NIRVANA FIT?
Kurt Cobain was killed in a CLuM mystic sacrifice in the mid 1990's, which has Masonic significance. One of the band members in Nirvana went on to found the FOO FIGHTERS, a band that celebrates CLuM Masonic U.F.O's as described above.
HOW DO DOOMED FLIGHTS TWA 800 and SWISS AIR 111 FIT?
TWA 800 took off from JFK Airport on Wednesday evening, July 17, 1996, and exploded a few minutes later over the Atlantic Ocean, near Long Island. Swiss Air 111 took off from the same airport on Wednesday evening, September 2, 1998, and went down in flames into the Atlantic Ocean off the province of Nova Scotia, Canada. The number of weeks between these two accidents is exactly 111, the same as the Swiss Air flight number. This is a very clear hoofprint of the clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) who had sabotaged both airliners.
Conspiracy investigators have long realized that another such sabotaged flight was Pan Am 103. This third doomed flight was brought down over Scotland on December 21, 1988. December 21 is the Winter Solstice, a very important CLuM holiday. Notice also that Pan Am 103 was destroyed over Scotland, whereas Swiss Air 111 met its end near Nova Scotia, i.e., "New Scotland". Scotland is very important to CLuMs, since the Masonic Scottish Rite is the preeminent public Masonic body throughout the world.
The Scottish Rite (degrees 4 to 33) is also known as Red Masonry, as opposed to Blue Masonry, i.e., the lowest three Masonic degrees. Red Masonry has been associated with many blood-red conspiracies, such as the French Revolution of 1789 and the spread of Red Socialism and Communism throughout the world. Notice also that Pan Am 103's flight number contains the digits of 13, the most Masonically correct number. What is even stranger is that the time between Pan Am 103 in December 1988 and TWA 800 in July 1996 is 7 years and 7 months: here we have an occurrence of the number 77, the mark of the revenge of Lamech. Lamech was a descendant of Cain, the first murderer, and father of Tubal-Cain, an important hero of the CLuMs. The Bible says the following about the mark of the revenge of Lamech:
Coming back to TWA 800 and Swiss Air 111: the time between them is 111 weeks, or 777 days. The number 777 contains the mark of the revenge of Cain (7) and the mark of the revenge of Lamech (77).
For those who would like to see more hoofprints, consider this: On Saturday, September 5, 1998, three days after the Swiss Air 111 disaster off the coast of Canada, the Swiss Ambassador to Canada was killed in an "accident" involving a train. His name was Daniel Dayer and he was killed in his own hometown, Sion, Switzerland. Sion, of course, means Zion. As CLuM luck would have it, Daniel Dayer had started his diplomatic career for Switzerland at his first posting in Tel Aviv, Israel, in 1968.
How biblical! A Daniel (a reminder of the apocalyptic Prophet Daniel), born in Sion (Zion), having started his career in Israel, meets his death back in Sion (Zion) in a transportation "accident", right after another transportation "accident" of a Swiss carrier in Dayer's service post, Canada.
This is a typical pattern of CLuM ritual human sacrifices: the "main event" is surrounded by other sacrifices of lesser importance to reinforce the message. These three doomed flights, Pan Am 103, TWA 800, and Swiss Air 111, were sacrificed in proximity to the Atlantic Ocean, burial ground of the legendary Atlantis, as a reminder of the New Atlantis Plot, the Great Work of CLuMs. The first sacrifice took place in Scotland and the last one off Nova Scotia, "New Scotland". The sacrifices were offered to Lucifer/Satan to help bring about the completion of the New Atlantis Plot, a.k.a. the New World Order, a revival of the legendary "utopia" of Atlantis.
HOW DOES THE ATLANTIC OCEAN FIT?
These waters of the Atlantic share another hoofprint. They are the intersection of the N. 41st parallel and the W. 71st meridian: 4 + 1 + 7 + 1 = 13.
Here is something alse to ponder: The Bessette sisters were brought up in the household of their mother's second husband, a man by the name of Freeman. Remember, "Caroline", or "Carolyn", means "free", as in Free Mason. So does "Francis", as in Francis Bacon, an early CLuM and the author of "The New Atlantis".
The accident had three victims, the canonical number of CLuM sacrifices. The third victim, Lauren Bessette had a twin sister, Lisa. Another apparition of twins and of the significant CLuM name Lisa, or Elizabeth. The name Lauren itself refers to the laurel, the sacred plant of Apollo, the sun god.
HOW DOES LARRY KING FIT?
The male version of this name is Lawrence, or Larry, as in "Larry King". "Larry King" means the "King, who is covered with laurels", the sun god Apollo himself.
HOW DOES DANA PLATO FIT?
The first writer about the legendary "utopia" Atlantis was the philosopher Plato. Actress Dana Plato died under suspicious circumstances on May 8, 1999, in Moore, OK. Again, May 8 is 5/8: 5 + 8 = 13. Her death happened after terrific tornadoes went through Oklahoma on May 3. The largest of these tornadoes crossed U.S. Highway 77 at Moore, OK. The number 77 is the Mark of the Revenge of Lamech (Genesis 4:23-24) and marked the CLuM sacrifice known as the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, 1995.
U.S. Highway 77 is very important in the Conspiracies. See explanation above.
April 19 is important because it is the last day Passover, the Feast of the Slaughter of Innocent Lambs, can be celebrated on. CLuMs have a lot of different days to carry out their attacks. Each day tells a particular story, according to CLuM occult mythology.
May 3 is halfway between May Day (Beltane) and the mid-point of the zodiac sign of Taurus. Taurus, the bull, was the sacrificial animal of Mithras, another sun god of CLuM mytholgy.
GO AHEAD, LAUGH. IT’S GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH!
But let us consider Dana Platos’ first -- Dana. Hiram Abiff was the "son of a widow", a Hebrew woman of the tribe of either Naphtali, or Dan. Therefore, the name "Dana" was used in this CLuM production to signify "a tribeswoman of Dan", a reference to the widowed mother of Hiram Abiff.
HOW DOES THE STATUE OF LIBERTY FIT?
The Statue of Liberty in New York harbor is indeed a statue of Lucifer, or Prometheus. It is also an image of Apollo, the sun god. The image is female in keeping with the androgynous nature of the Antichrist and the doctrines of Gnostic Dualism and oriental Yin and Yang.
HOW DOES FRANCIS BACON FIT?
Baconian cyphers are not necesarily one-to-one. Sometimes there may be superfluous letters, or inexact correspondences. For example, the name of the sacrificed uncle of JFK, Jr., RoBErt Francis KENnedy, is an inexact Baconian anagram for "Francis Bacon" (Beken). Moreover, one can detect Bellini's "Norma" in the name Norman, as in Norman Schwarzkopf.
Remember, the greatest 20th century performer of "Norma" was the opera diva Maria Callas. "Norma" Callas was the girlfriend of Aristotle Onassis, who became the husband of Jackie, who used to be the widow of President Kennedy, whose girlfriend was Marilyn Monroe, a.k.a. Norma Jean Baker.
Furthermore, the son of Aristotle Onassis, Alexander, was killed in an airplane accident and so was JFK, Jr. The sister of Alexander, Christina, died under suspicious circumstances, which should make JFK's last surviving child, Caroline, a little bit apprehensive. However, it may be that another woman has already died in Caroline's place, the wife of JFK, Jr., Carolyn Besset Kennedy.
By the way, "Caroline" and "Charles" come from the Germanic name "Karl", meaning "free", as in Free Mason. Another name meaning "free" is Francis, as in Francis Bacon, or Franklin, as in Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who died in Warm Springs, GA, close to the 33rd parallel at Easter time in April 1945.
Guess why 50 years later we still have no relationship with Cuba.
The article says 61% of living Americans weren’t born yet when the assassination took place. Add to that the number of kids who were too young to know what it was all about. And the number of low/no information people running around loose in 1963 and what you end up with is a great majority of the population who don’t have a clue about who did what to whom.
I’m afraid I don’t put much stock in what any of the so-called experts have to say.
No, he didn’t
The Zapruder film clearly shows a shot from the front right
And there are hits on the curb and a bystander that disprove the 3 shots theory
JFK-Bay of Pigs=1400 killed or captured to spend the rest of their lives in one of Castro's prisons.
Same Shit Different Democrat!
What is also quite interesting is the level of hate...not the right-wing hate the leftist media accused conservatives of having. It's the irrational hate of leftists that was directed at conservatives even in those days. And that hate was rechanneled at Barry Goldwater when he ran for prez in 1964. All the bitter hatred of conservatives that liberals had built up since the Kennedy assassination was focused on Goldwater. He was the cynosure of hatred by all the libs who couldn't swallow the fact that JFK was killed by a communist.
KGB and the Cubans had plenty of agents in the U.S. (the latter still do.) It was said that the Soviets transferred about $30 million per year to their boy Gus Hall (not his birth name), and what did he do with the cash, no one seems to be interested in knowing. Yes, he lived in a mansion, yes he drove a Caddie, but the Russkies were not so stupid to fund some idiot’s high life. How about funding the saintly so-called “civil rights movement”? How about funding the conspiracy theories around the assassination of JFK when everything pointed to Moscow and Havana, EVEN if they were not involved? I have more respect for the promoters of those theories who did it for cash, than for the useful idiots on this forum and elsewhere who swallowed them without chewing first.
And another question unasked. There have been numerous Russian-American couples during Cold War, married some way, who could not obtain permission for one of the spouses to leave the Soviet paradise. Numerous diplomatic interventions, newspaper articles. And here Oswald and his beloved Marina leaving with no obstacles. Why? We are told he was a doofus whom the Soviets were glad to get rid of. Maybe. But Marina? He and she were their assets, no question. Just what they had to do in return for the passports we don’t know, and no one seems to be interested in finding out. No one left the Soviet block countries at the time without signing some agreements, without having to pay back one way or another, no one!
I noticed flags were at half mast today. Was that because of JFK?
Hey, here's a *better* thread; don't miss Laz's theories at # 12.
Personally, I wondered if Sarah Palin was involved. /s
Thanks, azishot.
Oswald was a communist and Kennedy was an anti communist.
You were with him.
Many people in that time period believed that Johnson did it. It was shocking to me that so many people believed that. I was a teenager, and it was just unbelievable that it happened, let alone that member of the government would be involved.
As time went on, and I learned that Kennedy had ordered assassinations. I also learned that the CIA used the mafia to do “wet work” in the USA. We have a current president who targets American Citizens with drones. Sadly, I can now say that many more things are possible than I ever thought back then. How naive and innocent I was.
I listened to tapes on the History Channel of a group of men plotting to kill Kennedy in Miami. I can't even remember who they were or what their beef was.
It appears that there are several groups that had motive, and the means to kill Kennedy. I don't know which one actually did it. If Oswald did it, then I would suspect that the Soviets and/or Castro ordered it, and records were sealed to prevent WWIII.
The theory that was proposed as “Mortal Error” by an inexperienced Secret Service Agent was also plausible as presented recently on TV.
To me, it's ironic that Kennedy had ordered assassination of other leader(s), and himself was assassinated. The death of Oswald, and lack of trial and subpoena, means that we'll never know in my lifetime for certain, and possibly never.
It’s hopeless. Fools rush in. They talked to policemen in Dallas, they served two presidents and Al Haig, they own 300 books on the subject, they know that MSN lies (don’t you?), etc, etc, therefore they know, therefore there was a conspiracy. Just don’t mention the KGB or Castro. They’re so over-educated they’ll never look at the obvious.
And to me, ignoring the Soviet angle is proof of being a victim of the very MSN propaganda, 300 books or whatever.
If I remember correctly, Oswald used a POS 6.5 Carcano rifle with a scope that was loose and barely attached. Also, three NRA experts could not recreate the shot. Oswald barely qualified with a rifle when he was in the Marine Corps.
I haven’t read any of these posts.
But I’ve heard the JFK hype.
You know what?
I don’t give a rusty fudge hammer .
I don’t care.
Go away.
This has no relevance to today’s world. None.
Shut about it already.
Shut up.