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Calm solar cycle prompts questions about impact on Earth
Yahoo News ^ | November 24, 2013 | Jean-Louis Santini

Posted on 11/25/2013 7:27:34 AM PST by Star Traveler

Washington (AFP) - The surface of the sun has been surprisingly calm of late -- with fewer sunspots than anytime in in the last century -- prompting curious scientists to wonder just what it might mean here on Earth.

Sunspots have been observed for millennia -- first by Chinese astronomers and then, for the first time with a telescope, by Galileo in 1610.

The sunspots appear in roughly 11-year cycles -- increasing to a daily flurry and then subsiding drastically, before amping up again.

But this cycle -- dubbed cycle 24 -- has surprised scientists with its sluggishness.

The number of spots counted since it kicked off in December 2008 is well below the average observed over the last 250 years. In fact, it's less than half.

"It is the weakest cycle the sun has been in for all the space age, for 50 years," National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association physicist Doug Biesecker told AFP.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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The magnetic field that causes the sunspots has been steadily declining and it will soon drop below the threshold for being able to make sunspots. That means sunspots will disappear completely and we'll go into a "Maunder Minimum" type of situation, resulting in a climate shift to colder weather. That threshold is only a couple of years away.
1 posted on 11/25/2013 7:27:34 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
This is obviously caused by the peasants, and they must be punished for it.
2 posted on 11/25/2013 7:30:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Star Traveler

Bush’s fault.................


3 posted on 11/25/2013 7:32:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Star Traveler

Real risk of a Little Ice Age, says leading scientist

Professor who once blamed man-made CO2 for global warming does a U-turn.

The severe cold of the ‘Little Ice Age’, a period of harsh winters across the UK and Europe in the 1600s, went hand in hand with an exceptionally inactive sun,says this article on BBC.

That period of harsh winters and low solar activity is known as the Maunder solar minimum.

Now a leading scientist from Reading University, Professor Mike Lockwood, warns that the current rate of decline in solar activity poses a real risk of a return of Maunder minimum conditions.

According to Lockwood, professor of space environment physics, the sun was unusually active during the late 1900s, and that a so-called ‘grand maximum’ occurred around 1985.

Since then the sun has been getting quieter.

So much quieter that Professor Lockwood – who only 6 years ago blamed man-made CO2 for global warming - now thinks solar activity is falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years.

He found 24 different occasions in the last 10,000 years when the sun was in exactly the same state as it is now – and the present decline is faster than any of those 24.

Based on his findings, Lockwood has raised the risk of a new Maunder minimum to 25-30%.

And he thinks a repeat of the Dalton solar minimum, which occurred in the early 1800s, is ‘more likely than not’ to happen.

http://iceagenow.info/2013/10/real-risk-ice-age-leading-scientist/


4 posted on 11/25/2013 7:34:55 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Yet another symptom of man-made global warming.
/s


5 posted on 11/25/2013 7:35:42 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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Australian astronaut Phil Chapman predicted a mini ice age.

“Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh,” shouts the headline.

Here are excerpts from that article, published in 2008:

“Disconcerting as it may be to true believers in global warming, the average temperature on Earth has remained steady or slowly declined during the past decade, despite the continued increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, and now the global temperature is falling precipitously,” wrote Chapman.

The reason? Because “there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and Earth’s climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like (today) was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790.

“Northern winters became ferocious: in particular, the rout of Napoleon’s Grand Army during the retreat from Moscow in 1812 was at least partly due to the lack of sunspots.”

“It is time to put aside the global warming dogma, at least to begin contingency planning about what to do if we are moving into another little ice age, similar to the one that lasted from 1100 to 1850.

“There is no doubt that the next little ice age would be much worse than the previous one and much more harmful than anything warming may do. There are many more people now and we have become dependent on a few temperate agricultural areas, especially in the US and Canada.

Millions will starve if we do nothing to prepare

“Global warming would increase agricultural output, but global cooling will decrease it. Millions will starve if we do nothing to prepare for it (such as planning changes in agriculture to compensate), and millions more will die from cold-related diseases.

“The Greenland and Antarctic ice cores and other evidence show that for the past several million years, severe glaciation has almost always afflicted our planet.

“The bleak truth is that, under normal conditions, most of North America and Europe are buried under about 1.5km of ice. This bitterly frigid climate is interrupted occasionally by brief warm interglacials, typically lasting less than 10,000 years.

http://iceagenow.info/2013/05/australian-astronaut-phil-chapman-predicted-mini-ice-age/


6 posted on 11/25/2013 7:37:46 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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We should back 0bama’s plan to invest in more sunspots. More revenue and expenditures are necessary.


7 posted on 11/25/2013 7:38:29 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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Many meteorological and astrological scientists are readying themselves for the A-bomb of a Dalton minimum to be dropped on the “global warming” alarmists. Sadly, many of them, while being well-educated and well-informed on the ins-and-outs of solar weather science, refuse to get into a detailed public discussion on the matter out of fear of being cast as a “doubter.”

My college roommate and close friend is working on his Ph.D. in Meteorology, and he said that while the field is generally tight-lipped on the matter, behind closed doors most of them agree that the sun is causing more of the climatological abnormalities we see now than man ever has. Even during the industrial revolution, weather was normal if not below-average with regards to temperatures, and there was more carbon being pumped into the atmosphere then than there is now.

Obama just wants to use this as an opportunity to pass regulations on industry to later claim that he did something for the planet and that’s why temperatures are cooler than before.

These people are geniuses in their own minds.


8 posted on 11/25/2013 7:45:00 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Millions Billions will starve if we do nothing to prepare for it...

The more likely scenario

9 posted on 11/25/2013 7:51:13 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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Sunspots could soon disappear for decades: study

(PhysOrg.com) — Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades. The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age.

Sunspots are regions of electrically charged, superheated gas (plasma) on the surface of the sun, formed when upwellings of the magnetic field trap the ionized plasma. The magnetic field prevents the gas from releasing the heat and sinking back below the sun’s surface. These areas are somewhat cooler than the surrounding sun surface and so appear to us as dark spots.
Sunspots have been observed at least since the early 17th century, and they are known to follow an 11 year cycle from solar maximum to solar minimum. The solar minimum usually lasts around 16 months, but the current minimum has already lasted 26 months, which is the longest minimum in a hundred years.

Since 1990, Matthew Penn and William Livingston, solar astronomers with the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Tucson, Arizona, have been using a measurement known as Zeeman splitting to study the magnetic strength of sunspots. The Zeeman splitting is the distance between a pair of infrared spectral lines in a spectrograph taken of the light emitted by iron atoms in the atmosphere of the sun. The wider the distance, the greater is the intensity of the magnetic field.

Penn and Livingston examined 1500 sunspots and found that the average strength of the magnetic field of the sunspots has dropped from around 2700 gauss to 2000 gauss. (In comparison, the Earth’s magnetic field is below one gauss.) The reasons for the decline are unknown, but Livingston said that if the strength continues to decrease at the same rate it will drop to 1500 gauss by 2016, and below this strength the formation of sunspots appears to be impossible.

http://phys.org/news203746768.html


10 posted on 11/25/2013 7:54:52 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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“It’s obviously the SUV’s driving around on the Sun!”
~Algore

(He hasn’t actually said it yet. He’s still working on a way to exaggerate this future statement in such a way that he can make even more profit on promoting his scam)


11 posted on 11/25/2013 8:10:44 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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Bush’s fault.................

Naaah, solar SUVs and republican obstruction
of Obama’s magnetic flux.


12 posted on 11/25/2013 8:17:24 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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little ice age???????


13 posted on 11/25/2013 8:19:00 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: rarestia
many of them, while being well-educated and well-informed on the ins-and-outs of solar weather science, refuse to get into a detailed public discussion on the matter out of fear of being cast as a “doubter.”

"Doubter" i.e. "denier" i.e. "heretic." Maybe they really DO expect the Spanish Inquisition.

14 posted on 11/25/2013 8:21:15 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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"Bush’s fault................."

No, it's no doubt CO2 causing this and the only solution is a tax on all carbon production (you know, like breathing).

15 posted on 11/25/2013 8:52:14 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Star Traveler

I love it when nature doesn’t behave the way scientists expect it to.


16 posted on 11/25/2013 8:52:53 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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His opinion, professional and otherwise is only useful to the extent that it should how ignorant many so-called scientists are about the matter of ‘Global Warming’.

Beyond that, his predictions are as useful as the results of last years coin flip.


17 posted on 11/25/2013 9:07:29 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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I’ve wondered if all the global warming alarmism isn’t just God showing his sense of humor in setting up a situation where He can cut the legs out from under the worst of human hubris.

Like thinking that, on a planet robust enough for life (let alone intelligent life) to be created and exist, a change of a few hundred parts per million of anything humans can create can have a real impact on a global scale.

I’ve always appreciated George Carlin’s take on global warming: this planet we happen to be on can shake us of like fleas the moment it decides it wants to.

The notion that we’re in control, one way or another, is downright silly. But it will also be amusing, when we do go into a Maunder/Dalton Minimum, asking very cold Liberals why our carbon emissions didn’t save us.


18 posted on 11/25/2013 9:24:43 AM PST by tanknetter
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There’s one pretty good prediction in all this — and that’s that one which has tracked the magnetic field for the sun and it’s sunspots — and it shows a really dramatic (and steady) decrease in the magnetic field strength. And there is a point at which the magnetic strength is no longer sufficient to form sunspots. Now that “line” is about to be crossed, in just a few years away.

We’ve had a prior time in recorded history in which the sunspot activity dramatically decreased. That was the Maunder Minimum and was when we had the “Little Ice Age.” There was one other time (not as severe) and that was the Dalton Minimum. It got cold then, too.

I would say that’s a pretty good track record to go on - in recorded history.


19 posted on 11/25/2013 9:46:03 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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I've been tuned into this since 2008. At first, scientist said people worried about sun spots were alarmists. The recent activities on the sun are causing more scientist to begin paying attention. Of course, those invested in GW are still dismissing the potential here.

We'll have a much clearer picture in 3-5 years. If the sunspot cycle is shutting down, count on shorter growing seasons and more world hunger. The kind of things that can make peoples invade other countries real quick ...

20 posted on 11/25/2013 12:59:16 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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