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Dear President Obama: You're No Saul Alinsky
Forbes ^ | 1/16/12 | Ralph Benko

Posted on 11/30/2013 6:56:30 AM PST by Baynative

Rules for Radicals, popular lore aside, is not dedicated to Lucifer, but to “Irene” — Saul’s wife and soulmate. Alinsky considered the highest good to be human dignity. Rules for Radicals, p. 122:

We learn, when we respect the dignity of the people, that they cannot be denied the elementary right to participate fully in the solutions to their own problems. Self-respect arises only out of people who play an active role in solving their own crises and who are not helpless, passive, puppet-like recipients of private or public services.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alinsky; ganz; obama
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Things I didn't know and things I accepted that are wrong:

This article from 2 years ago offers some interesting comments and thoughts about how Obama differs from what I assumed was his book of political philosophy. It appears [to me] he may actually have taken his own course, or been steered astray by the likes of Davis, Wright and leftists on campus.

1 posted on 11/30/2013 6:56:30 AM PST by Baynative
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To: Baynative

The article is wrong — they can’t seem to be able to distinguish between propaganda and reality.

What Alinsky says is not what he means, same with Obama.

Their real goal is destruction of capitalism.


2 posted on 11/30/2013 7:00:21 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Baynative

” nonsocialist left “ is an oxymoron...

The left is socialist by definition.


3 posted on 11/30/2013 7:02:08 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Baynative

The President is the kind of guy who would try and read and follow a manual on what to do. I hardly think has ever been the type to have a original thought in that head of his unless someone writes it for him and places it in his teleprompter.


4 posted on 11/30/2013 7:02:54 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

‘unless someone writes it for him and places it in his teleprompter.”

The real question is “who is the man behind the curtain” telling Obama what to do.


5 posted on 11/30/2013 7:06:54 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Baynative
The loopy idea of the humanitarian populist left and right making common cause against the privileged elites of Wall Street and Washington … in a crusade for equal opportunity and a Kennedyesque rising tide to lift all boats … may not be completely far fetched.

Sometimes, right below the surface I sense some of the above...

6 posted on 11/30/2013 7:09:37 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Innovative

Just some activists from a communist background who blame America for everything and Colonialism.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 7:10:17 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Calm_Cool_and_Elected

ping for later


8 posted on 11/30/2013 7:12:26 AM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (" Undecided Voter: someone who parades their stupidity as proof of their morality." ~David Burge)
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To: Baynative

Berserkers of Obama world, UNTIE!


10 posted on 11/30/2013 7:19:44 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Rules for Radicals, popular lore aside, is not dedicated to Lucifer, but to “Irene” — Saul’s wife and soulmate.

There is most certainly a mention of Lucifer in the front of the book. I have a copy (it's unreadable, but a useful reference).

11 posted on 11/30/2013 7:23:10 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Baynative
two MAJOR differences.....alinsky wasnt a Mooseim!...Obama isnt Jewish!




12 posted on 11/30/2013 7:29:16 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Disambiguator; Baynative

13 posted on 11/30/2013 7:35:01 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Baynative

Six Alinsky Rules That Explain Obama’s Words and Deeds by David Horowitz

April 5, 2013

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/jack-kerwick/6-saul-alinsky-rules-that-explain-obamas-words-and-deeds/


14 posted on 11/30/2013 7:37:08 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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the LUCIFER...reference...follows his dedication to Irene... before any of the other material in that vile book....


15 posted on 11/30/2013 7:38:07 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Innovative

That’s the one. Maybe it’s not TECHNICALLY a dedication, but it most certainly pays homage to Lucifer.


16 posted on 11/30/2013 7:38:41 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Baynative

Articles that start with a lie should generally be disregarded. Get your own copy and decide who its dedicated to.


17 posted on 11/30/2013 7:44:20 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: Innovative

Soros.


18 posted on 11/30/2013 7:44:32 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: faithhopecharity

“Soros.”

You are probably right...


19 posted on 11/30/2013 7:53:00 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: GOPJ

LOL! Its not so below the surface as you might think. There are some FReepers, and I’m one of them, that are deathly tired of the false blue flag/red flag dichotomy perpetuated by the uniparty. When it comes down to it, the real choices we face are between oligarchy and liberty, fascism and freedom. Some who identify on the left wing are actually more friendly to conservatism than those in the gop wing of the uniparty. The key is in the discernment.


20 posted on 11/30/2013 8:02:02 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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