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Backdoor gun control is here: no lead means no bullets
allenbwest.com ^ | 12-1-2013 | LTC Allen West (USA, Ret.)

Posted on 12/01/2013 9:49:24 PM PST by servo1969

I am one who steers very clear of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. I often believe progressives plant stories in order to distract and disrupt, enabling them to pursue their true goals and objectives. That’s why I stress the importance of staying focused on the modern liberal socialist policies of the Obama administration, not the sideshow antics.

However, as a former combat commander, I have been trained to look for trends. And I believe we’ve found a very disturbing one. it seems that back door gun control is in full effect in the United States. Why? Thanks to Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), we can no longer smelt lead from ore in the United States.

The first contact the EPA made with The Doe Run Lead Smelter in Herculaneum, Missouri (population 2,800) was in 2008 but it was in 2010 that the EPA finally forced Doe Run to plan a shut down. This plant has been in operation since 1892 but will finally close its doors this month. It was the last lead smelting plant in the US.

The closedown is due to new extremely tight air quality restrictions placed on this specific plant. President Obama and his EPA raised the regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply.

In response to the Doe Run lead smelter shutdown, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the Doe Run Company “made a business decision” to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act.

Of course this is why we need serious regulatory reform that precludes executive agency fiat, especially regulation implementation that exceeds a certain adverse financial impact to a private sector business.

Of course the canned progressive socialist response is “For years families with children near Doe Run’s facilities have been exposed to unacceptable levels of lead, one of the most dangerous neurotoxins in the environment,” said Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for the EPA’s Office of Compliance and Enforcement Assurance. There are a few auxiliary lead processing plants remaining in the USA but their function is to re-claim lead from old batteries.

What this all means is that after December 2013, any ammunition that will be available to US citizens will have to be imported, which will surely increase the price and possibly come under government control. It seems this is fully in concert with the US Military and Homeland Defense recent purchase of large quantities of ammunition.

The effect is chilling: you can own all the guns you want, but if you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck. Remember when President Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes? Welcome to it. The result is that all domestically mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US.

Not only will ammo be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more. And ponder this, there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from the government instituting an ammo registration.

There hasn’t been a peep about this in the major news outlets, but it’s done. With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China.

China is the largest miner of lead and the largest importer of scrap lead in the world. The highly progressive state of California recently passed a law that lead ammo is banned for sporting use. There is an alternative, copper ammo, but it is hugely expensive to make, and pure copper bullets are frequently labeled ‘cop killers’ so they can’t be sold.

So America, back door gun control is moving forward and while we are all distracted with Obamacare and Iran nuclear negotiations, our Second Amendment rights are undergoing an assault by clandestine infiltration. Remember we reported on this website the gun registration actions being undertaken in Washington DC. Barack Obama and his progressive socialist acolytes are quite savvy at political chess. He is seeking to outflank, envelope, and destroy the Second Amendment. Now it’s our move in 2014.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; doerun; doerunleadsmelter; epa; guncontrol; lead; obama; secondamendment; tyranny
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To: servo1969

Obama may be in charge of the EPA now, but this started before he became president.

And it was congress that granted the EPA dictatorial powers under the “Clean Air Act” (and the “Clean Water Act”).


41 posted on 12/02/2013 4:36:22 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: servo1969

Wheel weights.


42 posted on 12/02/2013 4:37:29 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: babygene
"It seems to me that one recycled car battery would provide enough lead for one person for a lifetime. 40 or 50 pounds."

The I-66 recycling facility near me has a shed always full of used lead-acid batteries. Might make a good business collecting them for the lead.

43 posted on 12/02/2013 4:39:00 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: JRandomFreeper

It worked for Henry Bowman.


44 posted on 12/02/2013 4:55:57 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: babygene

“It seems to me that one recycled car battery would provide enough lead for one person for a lifetime. 40 or 50 pounds”.

I can recall reading on various reloading forums that there is a danger of cadmium poisoning if you were to use the lead from car batteries. They recommended against it, suggesting that you contact local scrap yards for recycled lead (lead pipes and roof sheathing from old houses, etc.).


45 posted on 12/02/2013 5:01:57 AM PST by Rockhound (My dog ate my tagline)
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To: Rockhound

I’d bet a lot of redneck reloaders would use car battery lead anyhow. Cadmium produces a toxic vapor when heated to the melting point of lead, so if cadmium alloyed lead must be melted, it shouldn’t be done in confined quarters and breathing of the vapors should be strictly avoided. There’s probably also a jillion environmental laws against it, but who’s checking?


46 posted on 12/02/2013 5:10:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah, if I was desperate enough, I would too. I have a couple of old tractor batteries just in case.

I wanted to bring the potential of danger to the attention of Freepers who may not have heard about it. Your warning to avoid confined areas and use proper ventilation is a good one (I do that anyway when molding lead bullets).


47 posted on 12/02/2013 5:27:04 AM PST by Rockhound (My dog ate my tagline)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

My people won’t ever experience any ammo shortage either. I’m just so glad I found SPS for my factory made bullet needs.


48 posted on 12/02/2013 5:46:56 AM PST by Eska
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To: Moltke

“Lead free.
Not quite:

The current bullet has a core of very tightly packed lead pellets. “

ou’re right. Perhaps they could be marketed as lead-lite; double the lethal force but half the lead.


49 posted on 12/02/2013 6:19:37 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: servo1969

How about all the lead products used in home building?

Particularly lead flashing in roofing.


50 posted on 12/02/2013 6:19:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: babygene

Sounds like (oddly enough) it has more punch than the CO2 (yes, I AM a polluter) models. I’ll give it a try. Thanks. If it weren’t for the proximity of the neighbors, the .22 would be in use.


51 posted on 12/02/2013 6:50:57 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside.”


52 posted on 12/02/2013 6:52:14 AM PST by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: servo1969

When the EPA began it’s war on lead back in the early 1970s. I always thought the real goal was to eventually ban ammo.


53 posted on 12/02/2013 6:52:34 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: servo1969

MAYBE its time for neighborhood groups to form well-regulated militias which could buy equipment to load and reload ammunition for the members.


54 posted on 12/02/2013 6:55:15 AM PST by wildbill
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To: servo1969

Time to start a cottage industry of visits to Canada in large vehicles and returning with loads of lead, before they ban the import of said substance.


55 posted on 12/02/2013 7:00:41 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Rockhound

“I can recall reading on various reloading forums that there is a danger of cadmium poisoning if you were to use the lead from car batteries.”

I’m pretty familiar with the chemistry involved in car batteries, and cadmium isn’t there.


56 posted on 12/02/2013 7:24:11 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Interesting, since I have heard the cadmium poisoning warning from more than one source (of course, rumors are easily spread on the internet). Could it be Ni-Cad batteries and not car batteries? Perhaps the well meaning posts I have read have their facts confused.


57 posted on 12/02/2013 7:48:18 AM PST by Rockhound (My dog ate my tagline)
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To: chris37

Me too. I have bought enough ammo to do what I can as one man. It does me no good to have enough to hold off the army of the Marshal Islands and if they get me, leave all my ammo to them. I have enough to protect me and my wife for a certain period of time, I ain’t saying how long here cause the commies will know, but I have enough.


58 posted on 12/02/2013 7:50:26 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Agreed. Having too much doesn’t seem viable in any given scenario and may also help the wrong people.

Don’t want to go into too much detail, but I can see no need to buy more at this time.


59 posted on 12/02/2013 8:07:38 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jimbobfoster

The supply will dry up. These Enviro-Nazis need to be taken in hand.


60 posted on 12/02/2013 8:36:54 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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