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UPS system overload delays Christmas Eve deliveries
NBC News ^ | 12/25/13 | Becky Bratu

Posted on 12/25/2013 10:23:18 AM PST by Libloather

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To: US Navy Vet

I just don’t understand why people get worked up with everything being delivered by Christmas day. I like the item of Christmas Day being focused on Christ/family time and not obsessing about gifts. Even for kids it is total overload. When our children were younger we would spread the gifts out over 5 days leading up to Christmas. We are not big Santa people so early on our kids where not waiting for one big exhausting day. We enjoy gift giving so it was fun to each open a gift per night and actually enjoy the gift. Christmas morning is now just a nice breakfast and a few simple/practical gifts like clothing.


41 posted on 12/25/2013 12:42:35 PM PST by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Libloather

We received every order from Amazon through UPS or Fedex on time, even as late as the 23rd. One package from USPS has yet to arrive. Guess we were the lucky ones. More people are buying on line than ever and puts quite a demand on delivery services and the fulfillment warehouses. I don’t blame UPS or FedEx, but the USPS, while mostly good, is the service to blame.


42 posted on 12/25/2013 12:46:43 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: digger48

That is crazy


43 posted on 12/25/2013 12:50:33 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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I did recently have a less-than-stellar experience before the Christmas season, and I'll throw it in the mix here just to be "fair and balanced."

To expedite and insure a payment, I used one of the United States Postal Service’s Priority Mail 2-day delivery letter options. This is not to be confused with Priority Mail parcels, which generally arrive within at least spitting distance of on time and/or in good shape. No, this was a nominally standard letter-sized envelope variant with the nice, transparent window, and it ended up providing me with hours – actually, days – of instruction. Imagine my surprise at finding the trail of the letter going cold after one day. Imagine my greater surprise at seeing no additional progress until five days later. Imagine my incalculable surprise when, nine days after mailing, this 2-day letter was still in limbo.

The experience would have been both instructional AND entertaining were it not for the fact that payment for a retail item was inside that envelope, and an innocent businessman was sitting on a piece of merchandise that had been reserved – yet still not paid for - despite my attempt at a punctual payment. As it is, there was only the instructional component, and it was only on my part. Aside from gratitude for this education in how things (don’t) move from place to place, about the only benefit I derived was a state of suspense insofar as I began to wonder if the bloody thing would ever arrive.

Five days strikes me as a possibly – just possibly, mind you - excessive amount of time for an extra-cost, boldly lettered and barcoded, “get-the-hell-out-of-the-way-because-I’m-special” letter to travel from Cedar Rapids, IA to Bellmawr, NJ. This is 2013 AD. Do I think that some stagecoach carrying the mail has been hampered by bottomless mud on the old National Road, or suffered a busted axle skein in the Cumberland Gap? Did a side-wheel steam packet with a postal contract get cut down by floating ice on the Upper Mississippi? Should I worry about the viability of an open-cockpit biplane flown without navigational aids by a half-frozen airmail pilot somewhere over Pennsylvania? Five days betwixt Eastern Iowa and SW New Jersey… that’s a generous allowance even if some functionary in the post office at Cedar Rapids had gone berserk and routed eastbound mail via the Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific, which mistakenly dumped the RPO contents onto the platform at Elmira, resulting in a leisurely and teetering trip in the Tipton-Bennett-Stockton mixed train. I suspect that none of these things occurred.

As for as a two day journey from Bellmawr, NJ to Brooklyn, NY, that pace might be logically explained by the employment of six individual letter carriers on bicycles riding in a relay at a steady – albeit not excessive – pace, allowing adequate stops for food and miscellaneous health exigencies. Perhaps a contract carrier acted out of an understandable sense of self-preservation and deliberately avoided driving directly through any “bad” areas of New Jersey between Bellmawr and the Hudson River; this would be a sinuous route indeed, and realistically such an anabasis would expand to fill up at least a fortnight, so that proposal has no credibility. More within the realm of possibility would be the theory that the driver simply decided to go from Bellmawr to Brooklyn via Gainesville or Daytona Beach.

I’m dubious about the more than 48 hours it apparently takes for a letter to go from the Brooklyn, NY postal sorting facilities to a post office in southern Westchester County, but then, I am not familiar with the greater NYC area. Conceding that “they do things different in the Big Apple” and that surface streets leading to southern Westchester County may well be the driving equivalent of climbing the north face of the Eiger, I made informal inquiries among my confidantes and was told that (in no particular order of importance):

A. USPS labor contracts with various unions specifically state that mail cannot be transported across the East River more than once during months whose names contain the letter “R.”

B. Letters from Iowa are kept at the USPS Brooklyn Sort Facility until everyone on the property has gotten a chance to make fun of the hick-sounding names on the return address labels. Outstandingly amusing specimens of Podunk-itude are displayed in the employee dining area until all shifts have shared in the hilarity.

C. There is actually no such thing as the USPS Brooklyn Sort Facility, and all mail supposedly “sorted” there is merely automatically routed to Cedar Rapids, IA via Bellmawr, NJ and back again. Once caught in this loop, the letter is doomed to stay in the system for eternity, thus the ever-increasing number of postal semi-trailers one encounters on Interstate 80.

D. Adequate space is often not available in any NYC-area USPS or USPS contractor’s vehicles to deal with the extraordinary burden of a (roughly) 9” x 12” envelope having the colossal thickness of six sheets of common typing paper. Such monstrously bulky and heavy items are left behind until there is sufficient empty space for them in a subsequent run, which generally occurs during the third week of February, leap years inclusive.

E. It’s George W. Bush’s fault.

Aside from “D” and “E,” these are all, of course, ludicrous fables offered by jokers at my expense… except possibly “B”… and – on reflection - maybe “C.” I am firmly convinced that “A” is absolutely an out-and-out falsehood.

Despite all the angst, the letter did arrive ten days later, so maybe paying 1,217% more than a regular first class stamp to enable a letter to enter a holding pattern of the damned in a Priority Mail purgatory is not necessarily foolish. After all, I have learned to not only track a letter, but also how to get automatic updates sent right to my e-mail account; the icing on that particular cake is that I can now navigate the USPS’ automated on-line complaint/issues menu. I also discovered that 2-day service is not actually guaranteed, but only implied… and that alone has to be worth something. Of slightly lesser value is the knowledge that using USPS Priority Mail 2-day letter service is something akin to traveling to Mexico and then ordering a Corona: to wit, the natives will happily take your money and then ridicule your choice once you are out of earshot.

This adventure in letter sending was of minor personal benefit as it took me back in time to a postal problem I heard of when I was a little boy: near the end of WWII, a late uncle reportedly helped another wounded soldier in a hospital to disassemble a captured German motorcycle – less reliable relatives add a sidecar - and mail the pieces separately from France to the US. Family tradition told me that the motorcycle never arrived. I now believe it is possible that the Motorrad des Krieges might actually still be still on its way, but has been delayed and is in transit somewhere in the vicinity of Bellmawr, New Jersey. Somewhat like "Schrödinger’s Cat," it hasn’t really been delivered, yet it isn’t really lost.

(Had Erwin Schrödinger sent something via Priority Mail 2-day letter from Vienna, Austria to Oxford Junction, Iowa, quantum mechanics students might now be studying the paradox of “Schrödinger’s Letter.”)

My recommendations to anyone who will listen is that if they want a letter in a standard sized envelope to arrive in a timely fashion, just put a first class stamp on the thing and be done with it. If it absolutely has to be gussied up, then at least use one of the greatly oversized USPS envelopes/mailers… or fold it in half and shove it into a small flat rate box… or deliver it yourself.

"The bugs," as they say, "have not been worked out."

Mr. niteowl77

44 posted on 12/25/2013 12:52:29 PM PST by niteowl77 (Establishment Republicans possess fewer guts than the last gnat that hit the windshield of your car.)
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To: GeronL

used to be a good gig, but not any more for the rural carriers.

She makes $10k less than 10 years ago and has to work more hours for it on top of having to furnish a vehicle. About 700 miles a week, stopping every few hundred feet, so brakes and tires don’t go long.

They are going more and more to part-timers who get paid even less, with absolutely no benefits.

But they will pay someone hourly to drive out and hand deliver a single $8 next-day parcel 15 miles from town.

And they wonder why the PO is losing money


45 posted on 12/25/2013 1:14:18 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

they need to raise rates for junk mail!


46 posted on 12/25/2013 1:48:17 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Libloather

Daughter in Minn said her driver told her big chain offered free postage with guaranteed delivery on Monday orders and dumped them into the UPS system knowing there would be failures they would not have to pay for on Tues. Nothing illegal, but will probably generate new rules and regulations for mailers. Fair play doesn’t exist any more.


47 posted on 12/25/2013 2:06:43 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Libloather

IMO UPS and FEDex companies really do a great job.


48 posted on 12/25/2013 2:11:04 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Amntn

***That takes dedication.***

Bunkum. I had two UPS deliveries in the last two weeks. One, they delivered late at night, no knock on the door, I didn’t find the package till later that night in a rainstorm. The package was so soaked the cardboard package fell apart in my hand.

The next was yesterday, again no knock, just left on the same porch.

I was right inside the door each time, a knock would have alerted me to the packages being there.


49 posted on 12/25/2013 3:06:52 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Libloather

Wife unit received 2 out of the 5 items due yesterday. No biggee as we had the important “things” around us today.

Tipped the UPS guy a Christmas bonus ...since he was out at almost 8pm on Christmas Eve.


50 posted on 12/25/2013 3:14:59 PM PST by moovova
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To: Libloather; Caipirabob; Amntn; VerySadAmerican; Extremely Extreme Extremist; niteowl77; ...
UPS has been great here, and I'm in a remote area on the Rockies. FedEx did me wrong, though, and FedEx employees seemed to be rather proud of their misbehaviors. I won't go into that now, but there's more.

Obama Bagged $18 Million In Corporate, Special Interest Cash For Second Inauguration
breitbart.com ^ | April 29, 2013 | Wynston Hall

"Obama’s big money corporate donors included:...FedEx--$500,000"


51 posted on 12/25/2013 5:13:10 PM PST by familyop
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To: SeaHawkFan

ok

December 8?

That is not too late


52 posted on 12/25/2013 5:27:18 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: VerySadAmerican

every rental truck in our state it seems was being used by UPS. I love ‘em.


53 posted on 12/25/2013 5:37:33 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

There’s nothing wrong with online shopping; in fact, I think it’s far more superior (and safer - look at Target for example) than going to the physical stores and dealing with jerks who don’t know what they’re talking about.

__________

There is no safety in shopping on line when it comes to hackers. That is why I have one internet card that I shut down immediately.


54 posted on 12/25/2013 5:40:00 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Libloather; a fool in paradise

UPS should of outsourced to USPS.


55 posted on 12/25/2013 5:41:13 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Libloather

It’s the fault of the idiots that put off shopping and shipping at the last minute.


56 posted on 12/25/2013 5:48:42 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Libloather

My UPS guy said it was crazy out there this year. He had never seen it so busy. Everytime I saw him this Christmas, he was running literally — literally running from truck to house and back to truck, and speeding off. It must have been difficult for drivers in areas like those ice storms in the No central states.


57 posted on 12/25/2013 6:01:36 PM PST by Exit148
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To: niteowl77
I had a USPS experience last year that was interesting. The office manager decided unilaterally to change how they handled outgoing mail that the carriers had picked up. Their old procedure involved the carriers just putting it in the bag that was on the inside of the slot where the public deposits outgoing mail.

His new procedure was to put it in one of the bins that is used to transport mail from the central office to the branch. He apparently told all the carriers about this, but didn't tell the guy who handles transporting the empty bins back to central.

As a consequence, all my outgoing bills for the month, and those of about a dozen other customers ended up on the bottom of a large stack of what the bin guy believed to be empty bins, where they remained for a month until somebody at central got down to that level in the stack and discovered the “empty” bin wasn't empty.

Funny thing was, the local manager knew what had happened as soon as we started calling him, but wouldn't alert Central because he apparently thought it would make him look bad. We just had to wait the month out... and pay all our bills twice, since they weren't about to give back the not-really-lost mail once they found it again.

58 posted on 12/25/2013 7:03:29 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Revolting cat!

In the future, workers in India will try again harder. Your holiday calender is so odd and difficult to remember.


59 posted on 12/25/2013 8:47:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Libloather

My son is a UPS driver. It has been a very difficult season for him, it has almost driven him off the edge. We often forget that these deliverers are people too, and they are missing time with their families to try and get your gifts to you.


60 posted on 12/25/2013 8:58:43 PM PST by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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