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Chinese going for broke on thorium nuclear power, and good luck to them
The Telegraph ^ | 3-19-14 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 03/19/2014 4:28:24 PM PDT by dynachrome

The nuclear race is on. China is upping the ante dramatically on thorium nuclear energy. Scientists in Shanghai have been told to accelerate plans (sorry for the pun) to build the first fully-functioning thorium reactor within ten years, instead of 25 years as originally planned.

“This is definitely a race. China faces fierce competition from overseas and to get there first will not be an easy task”,” says Professor Li Zhong, a leader of the programme. He said researchers are working under “warlike” pressure to deliver.

Good for them. They may do the world a big favour. They may even help to close the era of fossil fuel hegemony, and with it close the rentier petro-gas regimes that have such trouble adapting to rational modern behaviour. The West risks being left behind, still relying on the old uranium reactor technology that was originally designed for US submarines in the 1950s.

As readers know, I have long been a fan of thorium (so is my DT economics colleague Szu Chan). It promises to be safer, cleaner, and ultimately cheaper than uranium. It is much harder to use in nuclear weapons, and therefore limits the proliferation risk.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; fission; nuclearenergy; nuclearreactor; power; thorium
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I don't enough about the science behind this, but it sounds good.
1 posted on 03/19/2014 4:28:24 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: Kevmo

Courtesy ping, even though you have gone to the GREAT ZOT in the afterlife.


2 posted on 03/19/2014 4:29:32 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome
Thorium looks very good, for now.

I'm with the author. Good luck to them.

3 posted on 03/19/2014 4:30:17 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: dynachrome

“I don’t know enough” that is.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 4:32:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

Is there anyone in America that wants a stockpile of thorium?


5 posted on 03/19/2014 4:32:08 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: dynachrome

More on this subject:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=228863


7 posted on 03/19/2014 4:35:24 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

heh. that’s where I stole the link.


8 posted on 03/19/2014 4:37:08 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome
Basically, a ton of coal contains a certain amount of thorium (which is why the Greenies get their undies in a bunch about "radioactivity" from burning coal).

The energy contained in the thorium is about 10-15 times the energy you get from burning the coal.

What we as a country should be doing is processing the coal for the thorium and producing electricity with the thorium. Then, we could use some of the energy produced to take the processed ton of coal and squeeze it to produce petroleum product, like the Germans did in World War II.

The thorium nuclear process is liquified molten salt. This molten salt gives off heat. If you have a problem, the system has a cooled plug which will melt, and release the molten salt into a containment vessel. It then solidifies, with no danger of a runaway reaction.

The only real problem with molten radioactive salts is that they're highly corrosive, and give you problems in that area.

9 posted on 03/19/2014 4:38:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: F15Eagle

many times safer than what everyone currently uses.

developed by the military for airplanes long ago

http://everestlancaster.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/eleven-more-reasons-to-switch-to-thorium-as-nuclear-fuel/


10 posted on 03/19/2014 4:39:40 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: dynachrome

Good show, troop.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 4:46:52 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kiryandil

The original tech crew at ORNL had solutions to the problem with the use of Hastelloy-y and Hastelloy-x...both are high-grade steels with large concentrations of nickle. They also recommended a “core swap” every few years.


12 posted on 03/19/2014 4:49:12 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: DuncanWaring

Denninger has good stuff. More focused than Zero Hedge.


13 posted on 03/19/2014 4:49:31 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: All

YouTube Vid

Future Energy, Thorium and the LFTR reactor
(Thorium 101)

44 Minutes
(highly recommended)


14 posted on 03/19/2014 4:51:46 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: jyro

That was not a thorium reactor and the reactor never powered the plane.


15 posted on 03/19/2014 4:55:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dynachrome
The thorium blueprints gathered dust in the archives until retrieved and published by former Nasa engineer Kirk Sorensen. The US largely ignored him: China did not.

Mr Jiang visited the Oak Ridge labs and obtained the designs – entirely legitimately – after reading an article in the American Scientist extolling thorium.

16 posted on 03/19/2014 5:07:28 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Kolath

I’ve seen it...excellent!


17 posted on 03/19/2014 5:22:02 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: kiryandil

The energy contained in the thorium is about 10-15 times the energy you get from burning the coal.


Wow! We already have a several hundred year supply of available coal in the country. If we extract the thorium, we should be good for thousands of years.


18 posted on 03/19/2014 5:32:37 PM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: kiryandil
The energy contained in the thorium is about 10-15 times the energy you get from burning the coal.

Are you certain about that? I've heard that they're about equal.

19 posted on 03/19/2014 5:54:24 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kiryandil
I heard that “more energy in the radioactive materials, than in you get from burning the coal”, once before (inside a nuclear power plant). I was behaving at the time (and on thin ice as it was), so I didn't ask. Is that like e=mc2 vs energy released from burning, or is that like either radiation, or fission potential. One way would be highly misleading, the other would be very interesting.
20 posted on 03/19/2014 5:59:21 PM PDT by NYFriend
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