Posted on 04/04/2014 5:25:29 PM PDT by Moseley
I have no doubt that you have been thoroughly trained in the modern world of speculation — what you call extrapolation.
But how many times has our understanding FLIP-FLOPPED as we learn more?
All that extrapolation CHANGES periodically. We build the house of cards that you describe, come to conclusions, and then the whole house of cards comes tumbling down and we discover that things are very different.
Everything you describe is the process of formulating hypotheses that are waiting to be tested... if they can be.
The modern world of “science” has completely lost the humility that is central to science.
The theory of evolution never included life from non-life only more complex from less complex life forms.
The origin of life remains a mystery to this day.
“I am done here.”
So you come on and make silly and bombastic empty claims.
Make scientists look like pompous buffoons, thus sullying and besmirching the repution of science and scientists.
Then you bail.
Sounds about right.
I’m actually interested in you specifically stating “every single criteria for a Scientific Theory.”
That’d be cool.
Newly evolved species have been proven all over the place. Mankind played the role of selection and pushed wolves’ evolution into dogs in just a few hundred years.
It takes a strong will and an aversion to science to believe that no species has ever evolved into another.
Wolves and dogs are the same species, Canis lupus.
They can fully interbreed and offspring are fertile.
Interbreeding is possible and occurs between species as well.
Canis lupus and Canis latrans (coyotes) have been observed interbreeding in Canada since the 1920’s.
Ursus maritimus (polar bear) and Ursus arctos (brown bear) are interfertile.
These are relatively recent divergences, but the mechanisms driving them don’t stop there and there have been billions of years for all the species to evolve from much simpler organisms. There is a really good overview at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent
“Interbreeding is possible and occurs between species as well.”
Then they aren’t different species.
They are subspecies.
But don’t worry about dogs. You said there are hundreds. What are some others.
>>So you come on and make silly and bombastic empty claims.
Make scientists look like pompous buffoons, thus sullying and besmirching the repution of science and scientists.
Then you bail.
Sounds about right.<<
There is always one of you here.
I speak science, you speak nonsense.
No one as done a single scientific refutation of my arguments. No has even bothered to walk through how TToE fails as a Scientific Theory (hint: You have to know what a ScientififcTheory IS to do that — so far no takers).
My point is to let OUTSIDERS know there are Conservatives who understand science.
I can do nothing with the wooden-headed and willfully ignorant.
I tried 4 years ago and I learned it is pointless.
You aren’t worth it if you won’t be educated. I won’t risk myself on your ignorant behalf.
More evasion.
You are all sizzle and no steak.
I don’t think you know anything about science. You’ve never said anything to indicate it.
You posture.
You can’t back up your words.
You see ghosts where there are none.
I for one do not like fakers like you besmirching my profession by using it for non-scientific goals and interests.
Sorry. You said “Newly evolved species have been proven all over the place.”, not hundreds. my mistake.
Still, what are some other examples other than dogs ( which are examples of selection, not evolution).
You made a statement. Can you back it up?
I’m actually interested in you specifically stating “every single criteria for a Scientific Theory.”
Provide something solid and tangible.
I think you can.
The logical positivists were about more than just trying to put science on a firm philosophical ground. They were also about relegating metaphysics and theology to the dustbin of history.
Notions that are unprovable scientifically, such as the existence of God, existence of souls, Christ's nature as both God and man, etc. would not pass muster with your logical positivist progenitors.
Where God made his move to create is unknown. Perhaps science will one day find the connection, perhaps not, but God wanted us to learn all we can about his domain.
But evolution is a fact and the universe as we can view it is 14.5 billion years old. There are false sciences out there. No need to lump real science in with the false ones.
Science is blind to God and the supernatural. God created the universe in 6 days 6000 years ago and science will never know that.
In an encyclical in 1950 entitled Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII stated the Catholic position on evolution: a Catholic is free to accept any scientific theory about human origins provided it is acknowledged that, at some stage, God infused an immortal soul into the human body. This requires an act of faith, but not a denial of science, because science has nothing to say about gods and souls.
You are a little bit incoherent there. Charles Darwin never included origin of life in his work, neither has any scientist who understands the theory of evolution.
So the ‘nearly everyone’ you are talking about are uneducated in science, and here you are, a non-scientist, giving false information to those same ‘nearly everyone.’
So what we have is scientists agree that the theory of evolution regards more complex from less complex life forms, and non-scientists would rather not learn from scientists so they throw up their hands and say no one can agree.
So I guess I can agree to this- uneducated people cannot agree what the theory of evolution means.
... and still, after all these many years, evolution is still just a theory.
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