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The Trouble With Rubio
The Federalist ^ | 05/14/2014 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 05/14/2014 8:13:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/14/2014 8:13:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio backs amnesty—’Nuff said.


2 posted on 05/14/2014 8:15:50 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio Who?


3 posted on 05/14/2014 8:19:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

The Amnesty Dough Boy’s dream of open borders somehow does not appeal to me.


4 posted on 05/14/2014 8:20:52 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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5 posted on 05/14/2014 8:21:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Arm_Bears
Unfortunately, so do all the others.

And I, for one, will not be voiting for any candidate that supports making illegals, legal.

That includes Ted Cruz, though he tries to minimize his talk on his position for legalization, he would still grant permanent residency and legal status.

But he says it's not "Amnesty".

6 posted on 05/14/2014 8:23:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio could have soared with a good performance with immigration. Instead, he crashed and burned. There is potential for a real center-right solution to the issue, but he went somewhere center-left or worse and than ruined a lot of good will lying about it and voting with Schumer on ALL of the right’s suggested changes.


7 posted on 05/14/2014 8:24:04 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Arm_Bears

The problem with eliminating someone over a single issue is nobody will ever make the cut. Rubio isn’t my choice at this point. We could do better. That said, we could also do worse. The Virginia primary is fairly late in the process. If it is still competitive and comes down to Rubio and someone like Bush or Christie, I’d crawl through hat coals to vote for Marco and hold congress accountable in ensuring he never has an opportunity to sign an immigration bill.


8 posted on 05/14/2014 8:30:20 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601
The problem with eliminating someone over a single issue is nobody will ever make the cut.

Amnesty is a deal-breaker for conservatives. Period.

9 posted on 05/14/2014 8:34:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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10 posted on 05/14/2014 8:34:39 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Dagnabitt

We could do a little better; we could do a lot worse:

Cruz (TX) - - 100% (Average) - 100% (Heritage) - 100% (CFG) - 100% (ACU) - 100% (FreedomWorks)

Lee (UT) - 2016 - 100% (Average) - 100% (Heritage) - 100% (CFG) - 100% (ACU) - 100% (FreedomWorks)

Paul (KY) - 2016 - 97% (Average) - 96% (Heritage) - 97% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 100% (FreedomWorks)

Rubio (FL) - 2016 - 92% (Average) - 87% (Heritage) - 91% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 95% (FreedomWorks)

Scott (SC) - 06/10/14 - 92% (Average) - 93% (Heritage) - 94% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 86% (FreedomWorks)

Risch (ID) - 05/20/14 - 91% (Average) - 86% (Heritage) - 94% (CFG) - 92% (ACU) - 95% (FreedomWorks)

Inhofe (OK) - 06/24/14 - 91% (Average) - 89% (Heritage) - 94% (CFG) - 92% (ACU) - 90% (FreedomWorks)

Crapo (ID) - 2016 - 89% (Average) - 79% (Heritage) - 92% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 95% (FreedomWorks)

Coburn (OK) - 2016 - 88% (Average) - 81% (Heritage) - 93% (CFG) - 100% (ACU) - 76% (FreedomWorks)

Cornyn (TX) - 03/04/14 - 88% (Average) - 86% (Heritage) - 93% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 76% (FreedomWorks)

Johnson (WI) - 2016 - 87% (Average) - 89% (Heritage) - 87% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 77% (FreedomWorks)

Roberts (KS) - 08/05/14 - 87% (Average) - 90% (Heritage) - 84% (CFG) - 84% (ACU) - 91% (FreedomWorks)

Grassley (IA) - 2016 - 86% (Average) - 82% (Heritage) - 86% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 86% (FreedomWorks)

Toomey (PA) - 2016 - 85% (Average) - 76% (Heritage) - 93% (CFG) - 80% (ACU) - 91% (FreedomWorks)

Enzi (WY) - 08/19/14 - 85% (Average) - 76% (Heritage) - 94% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 82% (FreedomWorks)

Sessions (AL) - 06/03/14 - 84% (Average) - 79% (Heritage) - 88% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 82% (FreedomWorks)

McConnell (KY) - 05/20/14 - 83% (Average) - 80% (Heritage) - 87% (CFG) - 92% (ACU) - 73% (FreedomWorks)

Heller (NV) - - 81% (Average) - 71% (Heritage) - 89% (CFG) - 83% (ACU) - 82% (FreedomWorks)

Vitter (LA) - 2016 - 81% (Average) - 75% (Heritage) - 78% (CFG) - 79% (ACU) - 91% (FreedomWorks)

Barrasso (WY) - - 79% (Average) - 76% (Heritage) - 85% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 68% (FreedomWorks)

Shelby (AL) - 2016 - 76% (Average) - 76% (Heritage) - 82% (CFG) - 76% (ACU) - 68% (FreedomWorks)

Flake (AZ) - - 75% (Average) - 58% (Heritage) - 84% (CFG) - 71% (ACU) - 85% (FreedomWorks)

Coats (IN) - 2016 - 73% (Average) - 70% (Heritage) - 75% (CFG) - 83% (ACU) - 65% (FreedomWorks)

Thune (SD) - 2016 - 73% (Average) - 65% (Heritage) - 80% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 59% (FreedomWorks)

Moran (KS) - 2016 - 72% (Average) - 66% (Heritage) - 75% (CFG) - 80% (ACU) - 67% (FreedomWorks)

Fischer (NE) - 2016 - 71% (Average) - 64% (Heritage) - 74% (CFG) - 76% (ACU) - 68% (FreedomWorks)

Burr (NC) - 2016 - 70% (Average) - 62% (Heritage) - 67% (CFG) - 84% (ACU) - 67% (FreedomWorks)

Hatch (UT) - - 70% (Average) - 60% (Heritage) - 76% (CFG) - 75% (ACU) - 70% (FreedomWorks)

Boozman (AR) - 2016 - 69% (Average) - 71% (Heritage) - 70% (CFG) - 80% (ACU) - 55% (FreedomWorks)

Ayotte (NH) - 2016 - 67% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 79% (CFG) - 68% (ACU) - 64% (FreedomWorks)

Portman (OH) - 2016 - 64% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 71% (CFG) - 64% (ACU) - 64% (FreedomWorks)

Johanns (NE) - 05/13/14 - 63% (Average) - 56% (Heritage) - 71% (CFG) - 71% (ACU) - 55% (FreedomWorks)

Corker (TN) - - 60% (Average) - 44% (Heritage) - 75% (CFG) - 64% (ACU) - 55% (FreedomWorks)

Blunt (MO) - 2016 - 59% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 67% (CFG) - 71% (ACU) - 41% (FreedomWorks)

Graham (SC) - 06/10/14 - 59% (Average) - 52% (Heritage) - 65% (CFG) - 68% (ACU) - 52% (FreedomWorks)

Chambilss (GA) - 05/20/14 - 57% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 61% (CFG) - 56% (ACU) - 52% (FreedomWorks)

Kirk (IL) - 2016 - 55% (Average) - 44% (Heritage) - 74% (CFG) - 44% (ACU) - 59% (FreedomWorks)

Alexander (TN) - 08/07/14 - 55% (Average) - 46% (Heritage) - 67% (CFG) - 60% (ACU) - 45% (FreedomWorks)

Isakson (GA) - 2016 - 54% (Average) - 54% (Heritage) - 59% (CFG) - 54% (ACU) - 50% (FreedomWorks)

McCain (AZ) - 2016 - 54% (Average) - 43% (Heritage) - 71% (CFG) - 52% (ACU) - 48% (FreedomWorks)

Wicker (MS) - - 54% (Average) - 46% (Heritage) - 68% (CFG) - 60% (ACU) - 41% (FreedomWorks)

Cochran (MS) - 06/03/14 - 54% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 56% (CFG) - 60% (ACU) - 41% (FreedomWorks)

Hoeven (ND) - 2016 - 51% (Average) - 44% (Heritage) - 58% (CFG) - 60% (ACU) - 41% (FreedomWorks)

Murkowski (AK) - 2016 - 41% (Average) - 36% (Heritage) - 52% (CFG) - 38% (ACU) - 36% (FreedomWorks)

Collins (ME) - 06/10/14 - 30% (Average) - 28% (Heritage) - 39% (CFG) - 28% (ACU) - 23% (FreedomWorks)


11 posted on 05/14/2014 8:38:33 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SeekAndFind
It's not just amnesty. It's that he is an ethnic grievance pimp just like Al Sharpton. His "in group" happens to be hispanics rather than blacks.

I won't support Rubio and I think there are a lot of folks who would agree.

12 posted on 05/14/2014 8:41:53 AM PDT by turducken
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It really rubs me the wrong way, when they talk of being against amnesty, but it’s okay to Register the illegal aliens and let them Remain in Place.

That’s just a big fat lie.

If they stay, it’s amnesty pure and simple.


13 posted on 05/14/2014 8:42:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Jeff Chandler

Depends. He has already backtracked on it. As far as I can tell, he is more palatable than Bush, Christie, Clinton, or Biden and the record proves he is one of the more all around conservative senators. Not my first choice, but depending on how the campaign does, I might be willing to accept it if I have to. We made the mistake of trashing conservatives to pimp our preferred conservatives the last couple of times and wound up with McCain and Romney. All I am saying is we can and have done worse.


14 posted on 05/14/2014 8:45:04 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, Marco, but you stepped into the Gang of 8 and you will never get that stench off your shoes.


15 posted on 05/14/2014 8:47:41 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: turducken

I will say that aside from Cruz, everyone in the potential field has irked me in one way or another. If Cruz doesn’t run or isn’t effective, I’m going to have to vote in the primary for someone that has irked me. Aside from Paul, Rubio has the most all around conservative record of the non-Cruz bunch.


16 posted on 05/14/2014 8:48:41 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Arm_Bears
Rubio backs amnesty—’Nuff said.

Gotta ask the question: What do you think should be done? If the answer is to deport all the illegals, I agree that it should be done.

Is there anyone here that actually believes that it would ever happen? If there is, I want some of their mood supplements for my own personal use.

Barring a mass deportation, that ain't gonna happen, what could/should be done that actually has a snowball's chance of implementation?

Pipe dreams may make one feel good, but they're useless exercises in fantasy land. Until we are able to look reality in the eye without going into a pipe-dream-induced fantasy, we will not have anyone we can rally around. There are even some yo-yos claiming Cruz is now unclean for some perceived slight.

We mock the Left for not being in touch with reality, but they have a cohesive factor that ensures their on-going success in destroying Freedom. We have fantasies.

17 posted on 05/14/2014 8:48:52 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The trouble with Rubio is that he puts his Tribe first, then America.


18 posted on 05/14/2014 8:52:37 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: SeekAndFind
The problem with any who try to bamboozle us with the 'secure the border' mantra is exemplified in the thread below:

Immigration Enforcement Isn’t Smart, Obama Says
19 posted on 05/14/2014 8:56:41 AM PDT by TomGuy
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“I think a president has to have a clear vision of where the country needs to go and clear ideas about how to get it there,”

Wrong answer, Rubio. BHO had a clear vision and clear ideas on how to get there, and they are all WRONG. What our Nation needs is someone who has a clear vision of where the country needs to go, with an absolutely rock hard understanding of how and why this Nation was established and proceed in the same direction; one who capitalizes on the concept of rugged individualism married with the sense that we have greatness as a Nation and that we are a beacon to the rest of the world.

20 posted on 05/14/2014 9:01:18 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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