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Feds to Consider Paying Doctors for End-of-Life Planning (Death Panels Resurrected)
Stateline ^ | June 1, 2014 | Michael Ollove

Posted on 06/02/2014 9:36:04 AM PDT by abb

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Was there ever any doubt?
1 posted on 06/02/2014 9:36:04 AM PDT by abb
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I'm against Obamacare, but this is very unfair and misleading. People die, and the opportunity for humane end-of-life planning can be extraordinarily helpful for both the patient and the family members. This is also an opportunity to give the patient a real choice between a peaceful and supportive last days, or weeks of useless, expensive cancer treatments that often speed up the patient’s death, rather than extend their life, inflicting more misery on the family members as well. Don't get on the wrong side of this argument. Big money moves a lot of the recommended late-stage treatments, not humanity.
2 posted on 06/02/2014 9:43:38 AM PDT by binreadin
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You get a bonus for every peasant who croaks.
3 posted on 06/02/2014 9:44:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: abb
This is all a lie. I know it because it was Sarah Palin who warned us about death panels from the beginning. And Sarah Palin just can't know what she's talking about because...well, because the elites keep telling me so.

The satanic left wouldn't lie, would they?

4 posted on 06/02/2014 9:44:49 AM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: abb

Ah, so now there’s actual bonus payments for offing “too expensive” seniors.


5 posted on 06/02/2014 9:45:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: abb
was there ever any doubt?

I get it that people should not be denied medications or treatments that improve or extend their lives. I also get it that there's no way to pay for the medical care if there aren't some restraints on what's covered.

It's a dilemma we discussed in philosophy class in college in the 1960s. What happens when medical treatment gets so expensive that there's no way to cover its costs, except for the very wealthy? We've reached that point. The only answer would be to find less expensive treatment options.

Instead, big pharma is doing everything in its power to stifle natural and inexpensive treatments.

6 posted on 06/02/2014 9:49:29 AM PDT by grania
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There was never any doubt about this.
I knew they would use our money to pay for abortions, aids treatment, sex “change” operations, and hasty deaths for the elderly.


7 posted on 06/02/2014 9:51:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: abb

The veterinary term is “Final Care.”


8 posted on 06/02/2014 9:55:46 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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9 posted on 06/02/2014 10:01:32 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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RE :”People die, and the opportunity for humane end-of-life planning can be extraordinarily helpful for both the patient and the family members. This is also an opportunity to give the patient a real choice between a peaceful and supportive last days, or weeks of useless, expensive cancer treatments that often speed up the patient’s death, rather than extend their life, inflicting more misery on the family members as well. Don't get on the wrong side of this argument. Big money moves a lot of the recommended late-stage treatments, not humanity.”

I agree, Unfortunately I have been through this before with aging relatives, and have seen it go both ways.

Not just that people die, but many also live to a state where they are unable to make decisions and so those that refuse to plan ahead for that leave a big mess behind for someone else to deal with.

My grandmother didn't want to be kept alive long term fed by tubes and so she put that in her living will while she could still reason..And she wanted to die in her own house not a hospital.

10 posted on 06/02/2014 10:11:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. I won. ')
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I see MANDATORY Planned Death Seminars in our future which includes making a decision NOW.


11 posted on 06/02/2014 10:12:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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“You get a bonus for every peasant who croaks.”

I wonder if it will be like speeding tickets where you have an end of month quota to meet for killing off old people.

I will give the democrats some credit. They know Obamacare is a budget buster. Well here is one manner of addressing that issue.

Kill the old people. Kill them now.


12 posted on 06/02/2014 10:13:36 AM PDT by staytrue
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This is also an opportunity to give the patient a real choice

Bunk.

13 posted on 06/02/2014 10:18:20 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: Sacajaweau

I guess Adolf Hitler was just “ahead of his time...”


14 posted on 06/02/2014 10:18:33 AM PDT by abb
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This scheme is a real opportunity to coerce the sick, old and ailing into dying quietly, just to save money.
DD has a co worker, widow, and mother of several children, who was just diagnosed with a fast growing cancer. The doctors said they could treat it with a good chance of success, if they started promptly. And under !!#Obamacare**!!
she has insurance coverage and low rates and a subsidy.
But wait, there's more.
Obamacare will not allow her to get treatment for three months with lists and forms and all.
Game over, she is a dead woman walking(ok, not walking much now).
TWB
15 posted on 06/02/2014 11:18:41 AM PDT by TWhiteBear
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To: binreadin; Salvation

Salvation, there is someone here blind to what this really is.

Can you provide those links of how this ‘compassionate’ assistance works with the helping hand of Big Government?

It probably will help others clicking on this thread.


16 posted on 06/02/2014 11:28:46 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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In a country where it’s legal for parents to murder their children, it’s only a matter of time before it’s legal for children to murder their parents.

It’s going to happen, and the ACA only speeds that time.


17 posted on 06/02/2014 11:42:17 AM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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To: Paulie

Do not go to any doctor who does this. He or she is not a healer. They have turned their back on “ first do no harm” to social engineering.


18 posted on 06/02/2014 12:03:29 PM PDT by amihow
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To: sickoflibs

You can never forsee all the issues in advance. Not wanting cpr when in last stages of terminal disease is not the same as cpr because anesthetic went wrong.

Culture of death is on the march.


19 posted on 06/02/2014 12:07:17 PM PDT by amihow
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To: binreadin

I agree. Providers have been helping patients ease out when life is very painful and nothing can be done for as long as I have been in the medical profession. I have never seen this done when there was hope. I hate it that the feds have to now get involved.


20 posted on 06/02/2014 12:36:52 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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