Posted on 06/04/2014 5:38:52 AM PDT by rktman
So, I find myself sitting around a patio table next Independence Day sipping on the perfect mimosa with some friends and a couple of folks I haven’t met before. One of the new acquaintances brings up the subject of “climate change.” I know from the term used that this one is probably a sorta believer but not a hard-core, unshakable advocate; were that so, he would have used the latest, hippest, most with-it name-change term “climate disruption.” Now it’s time for my Favorite Global Warmism Question #1:
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My favorite question is.....
Since you believe that we are killing the planet and are a good steward of planet earth, what’s it like to live without electricity, hot water, a/c, auto and cell phone
Yeah. Same here.
People should be more worried about a comet or asteroid hitting the earth and destroying the atmosphere than to be wetting their pants over “greenhouse gasses”.
Dontchaknow they are special, though.. ‘Stone age living for thee but not for me’, would be their motto.
If everyone in the world does EXACTLY what you demand, how much cooler will it be after 20 year?
Answer: A fraction of a degree.
I always ask how many times he or she has flown in the past year, what they drove to get to the event, etc.
Fast Forward to 2054:
“I sure am glad that the government allowed us to build this one room dung hut to live in. Normally only high officials get to live indoors.”
“Yes, and the government was mighty nice in letting us subjects come inside the government center for a little while during the winter!”
“Too bad about your frostbite foot, Bendar”
“Too bad Dad had that heat stoke last year. It gets hot outside in the summer.”
“Good thing the government rescued us from having it be .00007234 degrees hotter than it would've been if our wise forefathers hadn't put all those Cap n’ Trade laws into place!”
Here is one I found interesting in his article, that water vapor is a weak GHG and CO2 is a strong GHG. That is the opposite from everything I’ve read. Would love to see the science or data on that.
Regarding the 379 ppm figure, when I was in 7th grade science class in the mid-70s, we were taught that the amount of CO2 was about 0.04%, which would be the same number after rounding, whereas 349ppm would be rounded down to .03%. This tells me that the amount of CO2 has hardly budged in 40 years. You can probably look at Jr. High science books from the 40s and 50s and get similar numbers.
That said, if the amount of CO2 increased from 280 to 379, that’s adding more than a third of CO2. The author would have been wise to at least acknowledge that the increase is significant. Even though the overall amount is small, if it disappeared, all of the plant life would die, so it must be quite significant. However, CO2 is not a toxic gas, so yes, it’s effect in simply trapping/reflecting heat would be inconsequential and possibly benevolent inasmuch as the plants like it.
You could always ask them what the “m” stands for in ppm. So, if you have something that is comprised of a “m”illion parts, how significant are 399 of them and what percentage is that of the “m”illion parts? Or, where did the C(uh)02 reside before it was released in to the atmosphere? Is there really “more” or is it just in a different form now. Sadly, they really don’t care because they “doing something”. :>}
When I was a lad in high school, we had an annual science fair. Any entry to the fair had to be governed by the discipline of Scientific Method or it wasn’t even considered. If the AGW crowd has ever presented evidence based on Scientific Method, I have been unable to find it. I’m pretty sure that none exists because the only argument (false argument at that) they can agree on is “consensus” and I don’t believe that science is determined at the ballot box.
My three questions are these:
There was once nearly a mile of ice over what is now Manhattan. Was the warming that melted its good thing or a bad thing? What caused it?
What’s causing the documented warming on Mars?
What is the “correct” temperature for earth and how do you know?
The Glaciers covered New York, Chicago and Seattle with a mile and a half of ice as recently as 11,000 years ago and also formed the great lakes. Geologists claim they have come and gone many times previously. What caused them to retreat (and advance) then?
“how do you know”
In general, this is a good question for humanists, though few have the intellectual heft to understand that they have to have an ultimate known unchangeable source authority or else their beliefs are baseless.
I DEMAND to know who melted or is responsible for melting the ice that created Yosemite. Someone needs to held accountable.
:>}
My favorite climate change question is :
Does the historical data indicate that an increase in atmospheric temperature followed an increase in atmospheric CO2
Or
Does the historical data indicate that an increase in atmospheric temperature preceded an increase in atmospheric CO2?
What would be the point of answering other questions on the subject before an answer to this question is learned.
You would probably have to join the military for it’s new role in “fighting” glow-bull warming/change/disruption/alteration/xxx as the POtuS told the West Point grads.
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