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OK Brat wins in VA, BUT what the HELL happened in SC??!!
11 June 2014 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 06/11/2014 5:32:28 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

DAMMIT South Carolina, CLOSE YOUR PRIMARIES!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; southcarolina; vanity
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To: Bidimus1

Not only state v congressional district, but a state where a lot of the citizens do not pay attention, versus a congressional district where everyone is consumed by politics and government. Big big big diff. When Cantor strayed, everyone knew it because everyone follows that stuff, without Brat having to buy ads to tell people.

Graham strayed and strayed and strayed, and a lot of good ole boys in SC never realize it.


41 posted on 06/11/2014 5:57:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: cotton1706

no chance for Hutto. None.

Unless Graham is caught on tape with a young shemale…..


42 posted on 06/11/2014 5:57:57 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I totally agree...conservatives there should have known that...
A great opportunity wasted.


43 posted on 06/11/2014 5:58:31 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: ilovesarah2012

Exactly. 5 or 6 options split the support so graham easily won


44 posted on 06/11/2014 5:59:07 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: thefactor

That was not the factor. The NY Post comparison is flawed. Turnout had little to do with Dem cross overs. Cantors antics and the border mess Obama started ginned people up to turn out, as did Levin and Ingraham.

NYP analysis is foolish.


45 posted on 06/11/2014 5:59:20 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: dforest

Everybody keeps talking about how great states with runoffs are but it sure doesn’t seem to be bearing much fruit. Seems that these races with 6 or 7 candidates are just increasing the incumbent advantage.


46 posted on 06/11/2014 5:59:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: HamiltonJay

There was a 50% threshold, so having a big field was helpful in that regard.


47 posted on 06/11/2014 5:59:55 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: US Navy Vet
I heard that Jack Trammell, the Democrat running for Cantor's seat, urged Democrats to vote in the Republican primary for Brat.

That could explain the extreme divergence from the polls.

48 posted on 06/11/2014 6:00:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Quite true. An excess of primary challengers favors the incumbent.


49 posted on 06/11/2014 6:00:12 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Graham may be a better politician than Cochran (who at this point I’m sure is senile), but Graham did have two disadvantages Cochran did not which should have made him very vulnerable, especially to someone who had a solid voting record like Bright.

1) Graham was far less popular with the state GOP than Cochran was. He had been censured several times. Meanwhile, Cochran had Haley Barbour in full campaign mode and that man carries a lot of weight in Mississippi(no pun intended)

2) Graham was a much more hated and obvious target nationally. As bad as Cochran is, he’s a quiet backbencher, and Lindsey was target #1 going into primary season.

This being said, Bright did do well with the money he did have. Though I’ll say Det Bowers was a surprise, going from 1% in the polls to what he ended up with, 7%. Mace (who was obviously the most anticipated candidate going in) failed spectacularly throughout. Totally not ready for primetime.


50 posted on 06/11/2014 6:00:16 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: cripplecreek

Evey situation is different. The problem here was not the large field. There were other problems, but that was not it.


51 posted on 06/11/2014 6:01:37 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I am not sure that wasn't the plan. Divide and conquer..Dems have even run extra choices disguised as TEA folk.
52 posted on 06/11/2014 6:01:45 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Servant of the Cross

Bright came into the race with only two other challengers at the time. Failed congressional candidate, Richard Cash, and the heir apparent-Nancy Mace, who performed badly in interviews.


53 posted on 06/11/2014 6:03:00 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: napscoordinator

What do you mean by “there’s another Ryan running” against Ryan? Just curious. Thanks.

(I don’t want ANOTHER Lyin’ Ryan!)


54 posted on 06/11/2014 6:03:06 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Viennacon

Graham quelled those endorsements you refer too with back room deals. This was not a failing on Lee’s part. It was a good move by Graham to do this early early early on, and shows the weakness of some people you probably over estimate from sC….one in particular, who I will not mention, because he’s recently been given a huge assignment.


55 posted on 06/11/2014 6:03:17 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: cotton1706

In other words: Bad.


56 posted on 06/11/2014 6:04:55 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Viennacon

You really don’t understand all the factors in this race. Per dollar spent, Bright outperformed every other candidate by a landslide. He was the only one running aggressively against LG. Two others were probably running to establish name ID for future smaller races, and they stayed “above it all” and did nothing to make anyone mad….but they sure as heck weren’t running hard.

You’re right about Mace. Cash suffers huge lack of charisma.


57 posted on 06/11/2014 6:06:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Could be true... I don’t get open primaries in the least, this is the dumbest idea in existence.


58 posted on 06/11/2014 6:06:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: US Navy Vet

13 million to 3 million war chests, that’s what happened. Money always wins......Sickening.


59 posted on 06/11/2014 6:08:42 AM PDT by lula (Shine the light of truth Lord, confound the deceiver I pray...AMEN!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Voter stupidity.


60 posted on 06/11/2014 6:09:04 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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