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End the McDaniel Kook-Fest (concern troll zot fest is just getting started)
The Neshoba Democrat ^ | 7/1/14 | Editorial

Posted on 07/02/2014 6:13:19 AM PDT by koanhead

Conservatism in Mississippi faces a rocky and critically defining period ahead after the GOP Senate primary bloodbath.

There are many good people - red, yellow, black and white, tea party and establishment - in Mississippi who are concerned about better public policy that will involve, among other things, - and most importantly - smaller, limited government.

If anybody can bring us together, Thad can. He's spent his entire career building and tending relationships like a master rose gardener. But the party must step up, too.

The next six years will shape the future of America, and Mississippi needs to be a part, for the sake of our Republic.

We will not get into the train wreck of the Cochran campaign now, but some remarkable people did some remarkable things over the last two weeks to pull off a remarkable win.

Without marching orders, individual Mississippians just went to work for Thad, from Oxford to Madison to the Coast, and gradually the heavy artillery arrived with reinforcements.

Strong leadership from the top down matters now more than ever. There's no place for the cowardly because somebody is going to have to pick up the pieces and put the party back together with more diversity.

With an unusual assist from African-American voters and other Democrats who feared the extremes of his opponent, Sen. Thad Cochran beat back a spirited challenge from state Sen. Chris McDaniel, triumphing in a Republican run-off and defeating the tea party, where the movement's hopes were brightest.

McDaniel, speaking in Hattiesburg, was angry and it showed. "There is something a bit strange, there is something a bit unusual about a Republican primary that's decided by liberal Democrats," he said.

He accused Cochran of abandoning the conservative movement, as he and his supporters have all along.

"So much for principles," he said.

We wonder what makes Mr. McDaniel believe African-Americans and other Democrats can't be principled as well.

It was an extraordinary end to a wild campaign, with Republicans standing up for the rights of black Democrats, and with cash-rich national tea party groups crying foul in defeat.

The bitter gush of fury and vitriol from McDaniel supporters after the defeat was, no doubt, brought on by Mr. McDaniel himself with the combative post-election speech where he refused to concede.

The right thing was to concede and start working for the good of our state and our nation, given such a wide margin of loss.

Meanwhile, his supporters continue to alienate voters, as if a Democrat's vote is dirty or unacceptable, not good enough.

We are done with those days. A vote is a vote. Good for Sen. Cochran for reaching out to Democrats.

Mr. Cochran is more likely to bring about change in Washington with that tone than one advocating the establishment of a pure race or party with a litmus test. Stick to public policy and get the government out of our lives.

Last Tuesday, Democratic voters trickled out of the Court Street United Methodist Church in downtown Hattiesburg, saying they had voted for a Republican for the first time in their lives - Thad Cochran.

So we have some Mississippians who voted Republican for the first time in their lives. So they vote once. Then it's twice in November.

All of a sudden, they're comfortable in their new shoes and the GOP is growing. Pro-life, like-minded African Americans are flocking in droves, embracing smaller, limited government and focused on ending the destructive cycle of poverty.

McDaniel supporters could simply try being gracious in defeat - and some reasonable and moderate supporters like Madison's Russ Latino have.

"Be advised though that there is a growing sentiment among conservatives that there isn't much of a distinction between the moderate Republican and the Democrat and that considerations like majorities aren't as compelling as they once were where Republicans have squandered majorities in the past," wrote our sometime op-ed columnist Latino to his friends who supported Sen. Cochran. "This sentiment is compounded when you win an election with what is at least perceived of as Democrat messaging."

He goes on to close: "All of this leads to great consternation over the general election. If you don't want us to be a part of your party, why should we vote for you? Understand, this is not a threat on my part.

"I want you to 'get' the level of anger and frustration and seriously consider the impact of telling people like me to go fly a kite. It hasn't been everyone, but now is not the time for Cochran supporters to be glib.

"I said yesterday, and I meant it, that the winning candidate needed to exercise humility in victory. I also think the winning candidate needs to prove that he still has some fight left in him and wants to represent the conservative base of his party. It won't be an easy sell. I'm not trying to start a debate. Just a dialogue."

What if Mr. McDaniel would have used similar words election night? But instead, he spit in Thad Cochran's face, evoking equally angry responses from the "establishment."

Mr. Cochran can reach out to those reasonable voices like Latino who are willing to engage in dialogue, but Mr. McDaniel is going to have to be among the willing in order to budge the needle.

Chasing away traditional Democrats is wrong and morally corrupt. Liberty is about the freedom to choose.

We still can't get over the hypocrisy of the McDaniel camp. It's more like selective liberty and selective memory.

For example, Pat Bruce, chairman of the Madison County Conservative Coalition (formerly the Madison County Tea Party) is a former Democrat, having worked on the campaign of Democrat Sen. John C. Stennis in the 1970s.

She apparently saw the light. Why couldn't traditional Democrats Tuesday?

Mr. McDaniel can relate to seeing the light. He voted in the Democratic primary in 2003, presumably for Ronnie Musgrove and not for Haley Barbour.

Should McDaniel and Bruce be disqualified because they fail the purity test? Of course not.

Brighter days lie ahead for Mississippi and for our great Republic if we can all work together.

But, THE SHOUTING MUST STOP! Let the dialogue begin.

Yet more than a week after the election, nerves still haven't settled, Mr. McDaniel is nowhere near opening a dialogue and he's masquerading as the nominee when he lost the election by 7,000 votes in a continuing kook-fest that includes a write-in campaign.

Gov. Phil Bryant and Mississippi GOP Chairman Joe Nosef have the power to end this. The vacuum created by the party apparatus not closing ranks and enforcing very basic management rules is being filled by the insane, lunatic fringe spewing the most vile comments and bizarre conspiracy theories ever seen in modern Mississippi politics.

The situation is completely out of control. For the sake and dignity of our beloved Mississippi and our Republic, end this nightmare swiftly.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: cochran; gopprimary; mcdaniel; mississippiprimary; zot; zotbait
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To: Norm Lenhart

And your tendentious, damning misinterpretations of them are here to be seen too!


261 posted on 07/02/2014 8:44:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: celmak
How is Zotting done?
I've been here for a while and never got around to finding out.

Behind the Scenes of a ZOT!

262 posted on 07/02/2014 8:44:49 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Winning back the culture (hearts and minds) is the most important thing here, in that you're perfectly correct.
263 posted on 07/02/2014 8:45:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

I believe in forgiving and would even forgive Norm (and Rita). I think at this point what they have done is passion driven, not coldly and evilly thought out.


264 posted on 07/02/2014 8:46:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
He does that all the time, most of us see that.

It seems that deceit and lies aren't just for democrats.

265 posted on 07/02/2014 8:46:59 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

And what it is to be won with, is to me not a nebulous vacuum.

It’s the good old Christ, doing what He has always done when invited.


266 posted on 07/02/2014 8:47:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lakeshark

You can say it all you like Lake. People can read our history for themselves. And your attacks on pretty much anyone that wouldn’t follow you into Romneyland.

So go ahead. Post a pic of Yosemite Sam on a Dragon for old times sake and we can get back to ignoring each other.


267 posted on 07/02/2014 8:47:24 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Lakeshark

This is a problem when a fallen sinner tries to stare Satan down. The result is usually to get transfixed. Satan should be brushed away.


268 posted on 07/02/2014 8:48:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I like Rita, we're on good terms.

I can forgive Norm, but he's going to have to repent and stop lying to prevent me from pointing out his MO. Lying and deceiving to win your point is NOT a good thing.

269 posted on 07/02/2014 8:48:52 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: P-Marlowe; Norm Lenhart; Jim Robinson

It would be a total surrender to support Thad Cochran at this point. After all he has done, Barbour has done, the establishment republicans have done, it would be an absolute, total, unconditional surrender to support Cochran in the face of that.

They have done everything humanly possible to let you know they are your mortal enemies, and now they want you to lick their feet as well....and be grateful for the opportunity.

No way. BTW, the 3rd party ‘reform’ candidate is a wacko, so there are two ethical options: don’t vote in the Senate race OR vote for Childers.

Childers is a pro-life, pro-gun democrat. The best message is a Thad Cochran smackdown of monumental proportions. Only about 140,000 votes the other way and Cochran loses.

Time to make the establishment lose.


270 posted on 07/02/2014 8:51:54 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Like this

And I don't know what that means but it is funny.

271 posted on 07/02/2014 8:51:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Vladzred

I guess you are referring to the flyers posted by the Cochran camp running down the Tea Party and McDaniels..... Time for the conservatives to stand and fight!!!


Both the GOPe and the Democratic Party have attacked the TEA Party from the start. Occasionally, the GOP will pretend to make nice but they never miss an opportunity to backstab, undermine or slander their own conservative base.

Anyone still think the GOP is looking out for our best interest? They’re “progressives” with an R next to their names.


272 posted on 07/02/2014 8:52:08 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Wow, that really affected you, you poor darling.

Considering your lies, that was a kind picture of you. A famous Christian once said that the devil couldn't endure to be mocked.

I think you're proving he was right........

Btw, since you promised to leave FR, and you sent your last post in, why are you here? Did you forget your own principles?

Oops.

273 posted on 07/02/2014 8:52:10 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Treating an encounter with a wicked person as an opportunity to out-wicked that person is a fool’s errand. But it is a temptation of fallen humanity.


274 posted on 07/02/2014 8:53:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I’m not even sure this is Thad’s fixed position.

What is clear is that his campaign team has gotten quintessentially Machiavellian.

And if some folks on this board were frank, they’d confess they LIKE Machiavellianism. The problem comes when your own ox is gored.


275 posted on 07/02/2014 8:54:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lakeshark

Nope. I didn’t promise any such thing. I had considered it and almost did, But many of the people, who you have attacked, talked me out of it. As for the pic, As I DID promise you personally, I would use it as an example of rampant stupidity. And I have kept my promise. Every chance I get.


276 posted on 07/02/2014 8:56:43 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks. I don’t know how to ping.


277 posted on 07/02/2014 8:56:43 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

What, you are like that silly YS?


278 posted on 07/02/2014 8:57:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: koanhead
Ronald Reagan would disagree (e.g. the whole Iran/Contra contretemps).

WOW! It takes both arrogance and cowardice to speak for the dead.

You comment concerned CURRENT STATE ELECTIONS, not foreign policy from past federal administrations. Deflecting from the subject just illustrates how undefensable your position truly is.

Do try to stay on the subject of your own thread, there Hon.

279 posted on 07/02/2014 8:57:58 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: xzins

If those are the only routes you can see, you lack imagination.


280 posted on 07/02/2014 8:59:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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