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Michigan man charged in punching death of soccer referee (Knockout Death)
CNN ^ | 7-2-2014 | Zachary Slater

Posted on 07/02/2014 4:20:56 PM PDT by equalator

A Michigan referee of an adult-league soccer match died Tuesday, two days after being punched in the head by a player, authorities said.

John Bieniewicz, 44, died at Detroit Receiving Hospital from injuries suffered in what police said was an unprovoked attack. The blow left the victim unconscious and not breathing on the field, Livonia Police Chief Curtis Caid said.

After the attack, the player fled the field and waved his middle finger at the crowd.

Bieniewicz was in critical condition when he reached the hospital and was pronounced dead Tuesday morning.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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To: Boogieman
"The people known to engage in the Knockout Game, they are usually Arab muslims?"

Only black people can play the Knockout game? That's racist. Arab muslims also blow up buildings with airplanes and kill kids


41 posted on 07/02/2014 5:13:27 PM PDT by equalator
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To: GeronL

Funny, that young man doesn’t LOOK like an arab Muslim.


42 posted on 07/02/2014 5:14:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"Funny, that young man doesn’t LOOK like an arab Muslim."

Maybe the name, "Baseel Abdul-Amir Saad" kind of gives it away?

43 posted on 07/02/2014 5:16:47 PM PDT by equalator
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To: Boogieman

I didn’t say he was. Do you think it is only one ethnic group doing it?


44 posted on 07/02/2014 5:17:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Boogieman

Bingo!


45 posted on 07/02/2014 5:18:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Boogieman

They’ll threaten murder 2 and then they’ll “accept” a plea on manslaughter 1, which is what they were gonna charge anyway. Unless the perp hires one of those “pit bull in a brooks brothers suit” lawyers who will tie this thing up for a couple of years.

CC


46 posted on 07/02/2014 5:19:51 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: GeronL

hey that was pretty good.


47 posted on 07/02/2014 5:21:33 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: equalator

“Only black people can play the Knockout game? That’s racist.”

It might be, if I had said it. Of course, I haven’t.

What I’ve been doing is asking you questions to try to get you to admit whether the people who usually engage in the Knockout Game fit the profile of this man in question. I think we both, along with just about every poster on this site, know very well that they do not.

“Arab muslims also blow up buildings with airplanes and kill kids “

Indeed they do, and if this guy had run onto the field with a bomb strapped to his chest, yelling “Allahu Akbar”, then I would be calling it jihad right along with you.


48 posted on 07/02/2014 5:21:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Let me follow up by asking you how do you know he wasn’t a Chaldean?”
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Well, since I don’t know him I can’t know for sure that he is not secretly a ‘Chaldean’ or a secret ‘Viking’. But since he has a Muslim name and is from Deerbornestan, I’m betting he’s Muslim.

But feel free to believe whatever you wish about him.


49 posted on 07/02/2014 5:22:59 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: equalator

The name Saad is Middle Eastern, but was around before Islam. It might be Sefardi Jewish or Christian too. In this case, Baseel seems certainly a Muslim.


50 posted on 07/02/2014 5:24:06 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: equalator

That’s the name of the young man in the video that is linked in the post I was replying to?

If so, it would be quite a coincidence.


51 posted on 07/02/2014 5:24:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Jonty30

The ref just Red carded, or ejected the player when the player hauled off and punched him in the temple. The ref was a family guy and a supervisor at CS Mott children’s hospital dialysis unit. Public opinion is currently running oh, about 100% against the perp everywhere but Dearborn, which is where he’s from.

CC


52 posted on 07/02/2014 5:25:00 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Boogieman

If people of any race were running around hitting and knocking out Black people every single day in and day out, I don’t think anyone would care what race the attackers were, as I don’t? You are an odd bird, my friend.


53 posted on 07/02/2014 5:26:11 PM PDT by equalator
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To: skeeter

thanks

Maybe I should do a bunch of those as a vanity


54 posted on 07/02/2014 5:29:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

“Do you think it is only one ethnic group doing it?”

Well, I’m sure if you scour the internet you may find a couple cases where the perp was a different ethnic group, but in the vast majority of cases, we both know the answer to your question, don’t we?


55 posted on 07/02/2014 5:31:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: equalator

“If people of any race were running around hitting and knocking out Black people every single day in and day out, I don’t think anyone would care what race the attackers were, as I don’t?”

Wait, so some people are actively targeting your race (assuming you are white of course), and you are not the least bit interested in knowing whether those folks fit an easily identifiable profile? What do you do, just view everyone suspiciously as if they might be planning to punch you in the head when you aren’t looking?

And I’m the odd one?


56 posted on 07/02/2014 5:35:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Celtic Conservative

Yep, happened to a couple guys I know that got in a barfight that ended badly for the one who started it.


57 posted on 07/02/2014 5:37:34 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: equalator

You know, it probably doesn’t matter to the dead man’s family and loved ones what was the motivation for the crime; their loved one is dead.

As for Baseel Abdul-Amir Saad, he struck a man knowing he could cause grievous bodily injury and that man die as a consequence of that action. I anticipate he will tried for murder/manslaughter and will be convicted under Michigan law of 2nd degree murder.

And, if found guilty, I for one hope he has a life sentence.


58 posted on 07/02/2014 5:55:57 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Boogieman

Yep, that’s voluntary manslaughter.


59 posted on 07/02/2014 5:57:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: House Atreides

I think the sentencing guidelines in Michigan call for 25 to life with the possibility of parole for murder 2. The judge can exceed those guidelines but must present compelling reasons to do so. In all likelihood this goes in at manslaughter 1 which I believe is 15 to 25 with possibility of parole by the sentencing guidelines. We’ll see how it plays out. My personal guess is since public opinion is running so strongly against the perp he takes a plea on manslaughter 1. We’ll see.

CC


60 posted on 07/02/2014 6:42:19 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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