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Army wants a harder-hitting pistol
Foxnews.com ^ | July 03, 2014 | By Matthew Cox

Posted on 07/03/2014 7:51:01 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

The U.S. Army is moving forward to replace the Cold War-era M9 9mm pistol with a more powerful handgun that also meets the needs of the other services.

As the lead agent for small arms, the Army will hold an industry day July 29 to talk to gun makers about the joint, Modular Handgun System or MHS.

The MHS would replace the Army's inventory of more than 200,000 outdated M9 pistols and several thousand M11 9mm pistols with one that has greater accuracy, lethality, reliability and durability, according to Daryl Easlick, a project officer with the Army's Maneuver Center of Excellence at Fort Benning, Georgia.

"It's a total system replacement -- new gun, new ammo, new holster, everything," Easlick said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 1911; 45acp; 9mm; banglist; beretta; usarmy; usmilitary
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because NATO countries liked the 9mm Euroweenie chambering batter...


21 posted on 07/03/2014 8:01:29 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: US Navy Vet

.45 ACP because shooting more than once is silly, but if you need more power in a semi auto try one of these. I hunt deer with a converted 1911.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.460_Rowland


22 posted on 07/03/2014 8:01:57 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Gaffer
Some 1911s fired over 200,000 rounds without failure in tests. I don't think many new guns can do this good.
23 posted on 07/03/2014 8:02:25 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: rjsimmon

Yes that’s what Mr. GG2 just said. NATO.


24 posted on 07/03/2014 8:02:34 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; NFHale

“...chambering batter.....”

Should be “better”, not “batter”... sorry!


25 posted on 07/03/2014 8:03:31 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: US Navy Vet

The Wildey from "Death Wish 3" would do nicely....

26 posted on 07/03/2014 8:04:01 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: NFHale
I own about nine or ten 1911s of one make and variant or another. I also own nearly every one of Beretta's open frame design - some in multiple variants like the M9A1, 92FS variants, etc.

To me, the reliability is unquestioned. Pit a lightweight frame (aluminum, or polymer) against an all-steel design and my personal experience is the steel wins every time.

As for cartridge... I can only harken back to the days of early US pistol experience, for instance in the Philippines, where they wanted a heavier bullet for knock back.

I honestly absolutely love Berettas and think they're great. But the ones I have readily available in my home for immediate action are 1911s.

27 posted on 07/03/2014 8:05:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: US Navy Vet
Been there, done that. Here's the solution (once again):

But of course, Uncle Sam will waste millions before he figures it out...

28 posted on 07/03/2014 8:06:03 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: NorthMountain

I have a 10mm, a .40, and a .357 Sig (in a Glock and a Sig). I prefer the .357 over all of them.


29 posted on 07/03/2014 8:06:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: DBrow

They should, but they won’t, because they want to have metric ammo due to nato.


30 posted on 07/03/2014 8:06:38 AM PDT by dila813
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To: US Navy Vet
Wikipedia:

American units fighting Moro guerrillas during the Philippine-American War using the then-standard Colt M1892 revolver, in .38 Long Colt, found it to be unsuitable for the rigors of jungle warfare, particularly in terms of stopping power, as the Moros had very high battle morale and frequently used drugs to inhibit the sensation of pain.

The Moros were Muslims.

The M1911 was the solution.

31 posted on 07/03/2014 8:06:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Hoodat

I was doing some shopping at a gun show Sunday and there was a G20 and a G21 next to each other. I have a couple of 1911s and haven’t had any experience with a 10mm so I went with the G21. Came with 3 13 round mags. Can’t wait to take it out this weekend.


32 posted on 07/03/2014 8:06:55 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: Okieshooter

I have a Norinco that I’ve been meaning to convert. Solid frame for the conversion.


33 posted on 07/03/2014 8:07:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: thorvaldr

I have multiple Berettas of one model or another. The ones I value most are the ones made in Italy. You can see and feel the difference.


34 posted on 07/03/2014 8:07:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2banana

Chelsey Manning will limp wrist it.


35 posted on 07/03/2014 8:07:50 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Would you still prefer the .357 SIG if you were restricted to hardball ammunition?


36 posted on 07/03/2014 8:08:04 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

That 10mm is one hell of a caliber.

At a gun show a couple of weeks ago I saw a 5 - 7 pistol of some sort. The seller told me that its bullets went through anything, body armor, walls, people. Anybody know if that’s true?

Why was that gun made?


37 posted on 07/03/2014 8:08:36 AM PDT by Loud Mime (arguetheconstitution.com See if the video makes sense to you.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I have one just like this. It looks like Colts Commemorative Reissue of the original 1911.


38 posted on 07/03/2014 8:08:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: US Navy Vet

Glock 10 mil.

I lent one to by buddy before we went overseas - he took some pistols out to the sand pit and shot at an old pickup tailgate. The 9s would punch the wall and rattle around inside, but the 10 mils went through the whole unit like butter.

He took the pistol to his CO and said “Why aren’t we issued these?”

The CO said “Good question!”


39 posted on 07/03/2014 8:08:56 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: US Navy Vet

1. Within days of this new handgun being adopted, every street cop in the country will have one.

2. The law that prevents ordinary US citizens from owning bazookas and machine guns will be expanded to cover this new handgun. Excessively severe penalties will be dealt to any citizen possessing this weapon.


40 posted on 07/03/2014 8:09:13 AM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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