The left does not need an Article V convention to succeed in the mischief you describe, they are doing it every day and you and I are powerless to stop them apart from an Article V convention.
Posted on 07/24/2014 10:52:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
What if you read the article again and again until you get it?
And that is exactly what he did.
True, which is why there is no downside to calling for an Article V state convention to propose structural amendments to our constitution.
We KNOW democracy is bad for personal freedom, tyranny of the majority, which is exactly why America was designed as a republic.
When I was in school 70 years ago we were taught that democracy was the worst form of government!
we are, or were, Constitutional Republic and never intended to be a democracy.
Comrade, why do you worry?
Pass the Wodka.
Of course there is a down side.
The State feels its power slipping away, an Article V convention would be used as a method to try to re-centralize the power.
If we have said convention, there will be no First, Second, or Fifth amendment. The State has been trying to dissolve those for decades (though old political theory says that free speech, armed citizens, and the State not being able to lock up whomever they want is a bad thing).
Those Conventions would be hijacked as soon as they are called, if the movement is not being manipulated right now.
I do get it. Perhaps the Judge is afraid to state his accusations directly. After all, he did lose the Fox gig for poking at the tyrants.
I suspect my legislature is typical of the other 56, minus CA, IL, NY(?). It is a part time gig, in session for three months. Most reps are independent business people and know very well of the heavy DC hand. My rep is a nurseryman, 1,000 acres under cultivation and 150 employees. He doesn't need the added time burden required to be a rep.
I'm saying we shouldn't equate state pubbies and democrats with their pompous, tyrannical cousins in DC.
Article V is the only peaceful means we have. Let's use it.
BUMP
Sounds like a Uniparty Ping to me
What if I live in California?
What if I voted to bury the abomination of
“same-sex marriage.”
What if, in order to keep the people loving
sin more than God, the arbiters of what is
lawful ruled my law to be unlawful?
What if these few people used an unsound legal
technicality to overturn my law?
What if the people then started to make believe
that any two people is a marriage?
What if the social bedrock of my society was
completely eroded by this mockery?
What if my son was raised in a society in which
I was called a hater for loving goodness?
What if my son started to hate God’s guidance
too?
What if the entire future generation was
successfully transformed into a culture
that hated God’s values?
What if an entire country was brought
down by this process?
The left does not need an Article V convention to succeed in the mischief you describe, they are doing it every day and you and I are powerless to stop them apart from an Article V convention.
Ok, so an Article V convention is held. All the states meet, hold a convention, and present terms.
Who is going to draw up the final document? Who is going to sit in meetings and hammer things out?
Your rep, who has a buisnees to run? Mine, who has a large farm? It will be handed to the political “class” and we will wake up with a mess.
I live in Iowa right now. With the Hawk eye Cauci, (as Rush likes to call it) we have a supposed good chance to influence the selection of a presidential candidate.
On paper at least. In actuality, it becomes managed by the Party (GOP or Dem) and the local votes don’t really matter. Only who counts and reports the votes. Last time, it was reported that Romney won by a good margin, when Santorum had. If it wasn’t for the Ron Paul supporters, that would have never been reported.
So what did the GOP do? Change the rules so you don’t get to be present at the counting. Only the party reps can.
When you have corruption like that, there is little hope for change inside the system.
The other peaceful path is what is happening. The Fedgov is so weak, they can not proejct power anymore
Why do you think that democracy is wrong?
According to Merriam Webster dictionary the full definition of democracy is:
1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States 4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
We are a democratic Republic
The two aren't mutually exclusive. All "republic" means is that we aren't ruled by a hereditary monarchy. "Constutional" means that there's an official document organizing the government. And "democracy" means "rule by the people"--which I think is a better description of what the founders intended than, say, an oligarchy, kritarchy or noocracy.
That is the purpose of the Second Amendment. Clean house and start over.
Ding-ding-ding we have a winner folks!
You have had to go out of your way this past year to not be familiar with the state amendment process.
States will send delegates with commissions. Commissions set out in precise terms what the delegate may propose and accede to. Delegates are the equivalent of agents with power of attorney to carry out certain duties and no more. The commissions of Indiana and IIRC, Florida include the caveat that if a delegate oversteps his bounds, the state declares his action null and void. In addition, these trusted men or women will face felony charges should they attempt such shenanigans.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on a dinner menu. We have a Republic, "If we can keep it".
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