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Report: 6 Tested in NYC Tested for Ebola; News Withheld from Public
Breitbart TV ^ | August 4, 2014

Posted on 08/05/2014 5:50:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta spoke about six patients in New York City that were tested for Ebola and one who had recently traveled to Africa that is undergoing tests for the Ebola virus on Monday’s broadcast of “Wolf.” Gupta said, “I would guess by tomorrow sometime we'll have a better idea” what malady the individual has.

He also pointed out that even though the patient isn’t in isolation, “This isn't the kind of thing that they worry about spreading to other patients in the hospital, spreading to people who are walking around the hospital. This is not an airborne virus. This is something that spreads only when somebody is very sick and they start to actually shed the virus in their bodily fluids. So, it's somebody who comes in contact with those bodily fluids who is not protected. While we don't know the particular story with this patient, we don't know if in fact he has the Ebola infection, in terms of concern for the hospital population at large or the population around the hospital, it's still very minimal.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: africa; bushmeat; disease; ebola; ebolasuspect; ebolavictim; epidemic; newyork; nyc; pandemic
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To: Black Agnes
"Would you think the difference between the mortality of this outbreak vs the past ones may be that so many people have become infected so quickly that they simply haven’t had time to die and become mortality datapoints just yet?" First, remember that the aerosol transmission and the point at which this strain becomes communicable comments were only guesses based on very, very limited information. Compared to other Ebola outbreaks, this is way, way worse. The worst in modern times. Compared to other potentially pandemic outbreaks? Too early to say. Spanish flu in the 1910's was fun. Plague was fun, because of the fleas being the intermediate vector. Polio was a scary one. In the 50's people stayed away from public pools because they thought they'd come down with it. We haven't had a good pandemic in a while. A decimator - 1 in 10 dead, or better, I mean. There's no money in vaccine development, so there are no companies working on it. Think about it - you have to spend boatloads, then go through FDA approval - which takes about 10 years, all so you can WIPE OUT a disease in a short period of time, which destroys your market for the vaccine. This is why companies like MAPP exist - it's really a defense industry more than it is a traditional pharma industry segment. It's hard to say whether they are on top of this or not. The half-witted Erin Burnett on CNN was lamenting how the whitey's got the serum while the poor black folk were left to die back in Africa. It never occurred to her that the two white folk are test subjects, and that the serum might have killed them as fast as it seemed to relieve their symptoms. Still too early to tell whether they've got a winner. It's not a vaccine, it's s serum based on Nicotine. The irony of this is that Nicotine's main benefit to society is as a garden pesticide. It's been used in that capacity for many, many years. Spraying nicotine on Ebola, and have it work, would be part miracle and part irony. Not a great deal of standing water in Africa to worry about. Pray anyway, since FLEAS would be far, far, far worse than mosquitos. If we are blessed, the serum works and it tamps it down enough to come up with a true vaccine. Too early to tell yet.
101 posted on 08/05/2014 4:13:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I met a historian once out of UC Davis who provided me with compelling evidence that the what killed people in Europe in the 1500’s was actually a strain of Ebola, and not a flu. People died quick, hemorrhaged a lot, and it killed a lot of people, but eventually burned itself out.

He went back to the diaries of the medical folks of the day and correlated the symptoms. Sure sounded more like Ebola than something else.


Good point. ‘Plumbing’ systems at the time were the vector to the vectors (rats, fleas).

Scary.


102 posted on 08/05/2014 4:38:36 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: RinaseaofDs; Black Agnes; 2ndDivisionVet

Cuh-rap! What about all the folks who have to fly, for their jobs? Yikes!


103 posted on 08/05/2014 5:07:23 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long

Skype?


104 posted on 08/05/2014 5:17:37 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Jane Long

It’s gone exponential. Hard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Ebola_Outbreak_2014.svg&lang=en


105 posted on 08/05/2014 5:20:44 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Follow the medical experts’ families self evacuating to ‘safer’ ground.


106 posted on 08/05/2014 5:24:26 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: HMS Surprise

“We are one week away from panic mode.”

I agree....


107 posted on 08/05/2014 6:16:59 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Thank you, Freepers. You all know who you are. You mean a lot to me.)
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To: LambSlave; grey_whiskers
I once got several million toxic doses of tetrodotoxin dumped on me (beaker got bumped and spilled in my lap), but no broken skin, so no symptoms. Could just as easily have been dead in seconds.

H'mmm, tetrodotoxin. If my hazy memory serves me correctly, cone shells, the blue-ringed octopus (via bacteria in its mouthparts) and the puffer fish (the delicacy fugu in Japan; concentrated in the ovaries and liver). Blocks up calcium channels in nerve cells, or similar, right? What on earth were you researching tetrodotoxin for? Given the topic, NO cheers.

108 posted on 08/05/2014 7:24:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


109 posted on 08/05/2014 7:27:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

110 posted on 08/05/2014 7:32:16 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Great post. Thanks.


111 posted on 08/05/2014 7:48:03 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: miserare

“This isn’t the kind of thing that they worry about spreading to other patients in the hospital, spreading to people who are walking around the hospital.”

You mean like nurses going from pt to pt?

He’s an idiot.


112 posted on 08/05/2014 7:49:51 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: LambSlave; Justa

>Already, the death rate in Guinea, where the infection was first detected, has reached 74 percent. The overall regional outbreak mortality figure is brought down by lower death rates in countries that were more recently hit: 54 percent in Liberia and around 42 percent in Sierra Leone.<


113 posted on 08/05/2014 7:54:34 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: null and void; Smokin' Joe

another one:

BREAKING NEWS: Ebola Fears Prompts CDC to Hold Flight at New York’s JFK Airport

http://news.kron4.com/news/breaking-news-ebola-fears-prompts-cdc-to-hold-flight-at-new-yorks-jfk-airport/


114 posted on 08/05/2014 9:31:48 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


115 posted on 08/06/2014 2:10:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: grey_whiskers
What on earth were you researching tetrodotoxin for?

I was modeling mitochondrial calcium channel dynamics in neurons

116 posted on 08/06/2014 4:32:42 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Black Agnes

Hi Agnes,

New fatality numbers came out, and that’s what got the ink. However, that’s not the important number in the report.

Wikipedia has an outstanding, and well documented - painstakingly documented - area that is actively tracking the outbreak.

You can find it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_West_Africa_Ebola_outbreak

No R0 figures there, but there’s a graph at the bottom that tracks the outbreak.

The most important line on that graph are the cases.

As you can see, the outbreak is early days, but the cases are showing an exponential curve build up.

One more thing - It’s in Saudi Arabia. A man returning from Sierra Leone to SA died three days after returning. That means he was likely symptomatic on the plane coming home. It’s loose in the SA, and so far there hasn’t been any news or numbers resulting from that.

Recently, however, they have requested help in figuring out how to shut their border (Egypt).

Keep in mind that the SA is also dealing with the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) outbreak. That’s actually good news for them, as they were on a ‘war footing’ when came home from a visit to SL to the city of Jiddah. Why a country like SA dealing with MERS allows a symptomatic patient board a plane back to SA is beyond me, however. Probably a function of how backward SL is, not SA.

Now, consider that people come from every country on earth to worship at MECCA. You want to talk about the mother of all bad places to take a disease like Ebola - that’s the place.

They come from everywhere to worship - every country on Earth - and then they go home.

I hadn’t considered that yesterday. You can’t make stuff like this up in fiction and have people suspend their belief to buy it.

Make a muzzie sick, then send him to Mecca.

I’ve never considered that religion, sports fanaticism, music fanaticism, or any other proclivity that would bring an infected patient with a possibly aerosolized, highly contagious (1 to 10 individual units of the virus, and long incubating contagion in contact with tens of thousands of people in a single four hour period might impact the overall equation for how fast it might spread.

If they start ringing up cases in Mecca, that will be interesting.

It’s definitely there, however. That’s a new wrinkle.

The cases curve is trending exponential. This likely means an R0 > 1. You can satisfy yourself of that by looking at the infection trends of other viral infections - not just Ebola.

If you look at Ebola trends, you get a gentler slope up with a plateau. The case line at the site is trending ballistic.


117 posted on 08/06/2014 10:24:26 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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118 posted on 08/06/2014 10:25:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Lil Flower

Yes, Sanjay Gupta is an idiot and an Obama tool.


119 posted on 08/06/2014 2:07:51 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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