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'I thought my e-cigarette was a miracle. Turns out, I was smoking the equivalent of 40-a-day'
The Telegraph ^ | Aug 27, 2014 | Rachael Lloyd

Posted on 09/04/2014 12:28:39 PM PDT by DannyTN

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To: chrisser
"I’m off both of them now but, IMHO, regular cigarettes are orders of magnitude more unhealthy than a reputable e-cigarette."

I suspect e-cigs are safer too, but only if you vape no more than you would smoke.

If you increase your vaping like the woman who wrote this article did, because you think they are safer, you could find that you are poisoning yourself at a much faster rate than you ever expected.

41 posted on 09/04/2014 12:53:39 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
In before the e-cig vendors, addicts, smokers, pot heads and libertarians show up to call me a nanny-stater for daring to post an article pointing out the health dangers.

"Daring"??? Oh, you brave little nanny-stater. How did you ever work up the courage? Have you no fear?
42 posted on 09/04/2014 12:53:41 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: djf

[ Correct.

Nicotine (well, it’s derivatives) are NECESSARY for life.

Ever hear of nicotinic acid? Well, the scientists call it “niacin” because when they realized it was needed by the body, they didn’t want people to think nicotine was something good, so they called it “niacin”

It’s political correctness all the way... ]

Ever buy actual Niacin, no the flush free variety but the REAL Old timey stuff, you can get it in health food stores...

After freezing your butt off outside in the winter take a tablet dose of it when you get inside and you will instantly feel warm. It is an intersting effect..

5 hour energy also has Niacin (the non flush type) in it as well.


43 posted on 09/04/2014 12:53:41 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Drew68

Here in Kansas, we had a few ‘roll your own’ shops pop up. It was genius really - you walk up to a big machine, put loose tobacco and papers in it, press some buttons, and blamo, it spits out rolled cigarettes. And since you operated the machine...you ‘rolled your own’. Meaning no taxes.

It lasted about a year, before the helpful government shut it down.

Why? Fire safety. Apparently, one of the major tobacco makers has developed a paper that goes out, if you quit puffing. And, they have helpfully licensed their invention to all the cig makers. Next step - the FDA now requires these papers on any cig, other than a hand rolled one.

Presto - competition gone AND tax revenue back in place.


44 posted on 09/04/2014 12:53:46 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: SVTCobra03

I feel the same way you do about smoking but I disagree that vaping is still just as nasty as smoking. Have you been around it?

It does not smell, it’s just water vapor coming out.

I think the crack down on vaping is because the government is scared of losing massive tax revenue.

It’s a scandal, because vaping would help millions of people improve their health.


45 posted on 09/04/2014 12:53:50 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: DannyTN
This week, the World Health Organisation (WHO) recommended that e-cigarettes should be banned indoors, because they emit chemicals potentially as dangerous as cigarettes and have a potential passive smoking risk.

While I don't smoke and will refuse to foot the health bills of the people who do, the entire concept of "second-hand smoke" is a myth made up by Communists who need an excuse to control our lives. These are the same Communists, mind you, who approve of giving the tobacco industry subsidies while simultaneously putting out anti-smoking PSAs (I guarantee you that nobody has actually quit smoking just because of a PSA). The government's policies make sense when you realize that it's all about controlling the population and establishing a reliable voting base; the purpose of the PSAs is to give jobs to the incompetent dregs of society.

46 posted on 09/04/2014 12:54:16 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: djf

Nicotine itself, as you probably know, is inpure form a remarkably deadly poison.


47 posted on 09/04/2014 12:55:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: DannyTN

What health dangers?


48 posted on 09/04/2014 12:55:44 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: DannyTN

[ If you increase your vaping like the woman who wrote this article did, because you think they are safer, you could find that you are poisoning yourself at a much faster rate than you ever expected. ]

NAILED IT!!!!

This problem affects a LOT of liberals, and it the whole argument of them not realizing that “False Sense of Security” is worse than being Insecure and knowing it...

Because once your guard is down one is more vulnerable...


49 posted on 09/04/2014 12:57:43 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: DannyTN

As long as you don’t demand e-cigs get banned, I don’t think anyone minds being informed.

And, no I am not an e-cig vendor, addict, smoker, pot head or any sort of purist libertarian (although I do agree with the smallest reasonable amount of government).


50 posted on 09/04/2014 12:58:02 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Drew68

Yep, it is all about the taxes.

And it is to easy to make your own brew to vap, so increasing taxes on the liquid won’t work as well.

I know a few people who have had bad side effects. Mostly from getting to much nicotine to fast. But for the majority, it has helped them stop smoking.


51 posted on 09/04/2014 12:59:13 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marron

A company tried to build a coal power plant in western Kansas a few years ago (Sebelius blocked it).

As part of the campaign against it, we were treated to commercials showing pristine wilderness being destroyed by coal.

Who funded the commercials?

OneOK - a huge gas company from Oklahoma that supplies Kansas.


52 posted on 09/04/2014 12:59:49 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: DannyTN

I was a 3 pack/day smoker and have been vaping for years. I am constantly vaping throughout the day.

On very rare occasions I will have a cigarette. That cigarette gives me quite a high. To get that high I must now be accustomed to a lower level of nicotine from the vaping.

I question the 40 cigs a day comparison.


53 posted on 09/04/2014 1:04:05 PM PDT by wkg
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To: DannyTN

Isn’t nicotine addictive?

Is that news?


54 posted on 09/04/2014 1:05:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: a fool in paradise

George Michael for one.


55 posted on 09/04/2014 1:05:20 PM PDT by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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To: Jewbacca
"As long as you don’t demand e-cigs get banned, I don’t think anyone minds being informed."

Oh there are people who mind. Believe me. Just look at this thread so far.

56 posted on 09/04/2014 1:07:33 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

I’m sorry...what is the health danger you are pointing out?


57 posted on 09/04/2014 1:09:00 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: DannyTN
In before the e-cig vendors, addicts, smokers, pot heads and libertarians show up to call me a nanny-stater for daring to post an article pointing out the health dangers.

I have no complaint on you pointing out health dangers.I am all for people making informed decisions about their lives. Give them *facts* and let them do as they please.

Example, those who blame tobacco companies for current smokers are fools. There's no one under 60 smoking who didn't/doesn't know the health effects. So,they made a free choice. They choose not to believe the facts, that's their choice.

58 posted on 09/04/2014 1:10:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: FatherofFive

And everyone could be happy and gay.

That’s before the world went completely nuts.


59 posted on 09/04/2014 1:10:35 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: DannyTN
There's a big difference between E-cigs (trade name) and Blues (trade name). I've tried both and found the Blues while needing to puff about 3 times to get the taste put out no odor. It's just water vapor. The E-cigs are much stronger and I can smell them after just one puff. While stronger with just one puff they are a hassle to deal with the oil and filter that needs periodic cleaning.

I'm almost down to nothing since the Blues. No one, I repeat no one has ever complained about the Blues, even outside of restaurants. You cannot smell them, period. Anyone who says they can is having a psychosomatic response.

60 posted on 09/04/2014 1:11:05 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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