Posted on 09/06/2014 1:59:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Wow, I’m a bit surprised that “yes” has closed the gap.
I’m in favor if it for reasons state before, it would be good for the rest of the UK to be rid of Scotland’s socialist MPs. And in the the long term I think it would be good for what passes for the right in Scotland.
Texas has a little more breathing room than it seems at first glance.
Only about 45% of Texas Hispanics are eligible to vote.
Nationally, only about 43% of Hispanics are eligible.
Whites are 78% eligible in Texas, and white Conservatives turn out in larger numbers than Hispanics.
Of course, if vote cheating is wide spread, eligibility and turn out become meaningless.
If Scotland does make the break and then Northern Ireland begins a process of wishing to move away from English domination and unifies with Southern Ireland, becoming a full Irish Republic, it would leave only England as a monarchy in the area. This would in fact likely start a serious move to abolish the monarchy in full in England.
As it is, Australia is talking seriously about breaking away from the Commonwealth and becoming their own independent Republic. Then New Zealand is reputed to be making quiet preparations in breaking away from the Crown as well and becoming an independent republic. Thing is, Australia might do a great job, but New Zealand might not be a world power, but certainly, they would be determining their own future and that is more valuable than riches.
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
Make it a short visit please.
...feeling owned...
Ever since the foundation of the United Kingdom, it's been jointly 'owned' by its partner countries. England does not, and never has 'owned' Scotland. Scotland is not, and never has been a colony. The Union is just that - a voluntary partnership of equals. It's not the result of invasion, defeat, occupation, subjugation or colonisation. Although the rhetoric of the more excitable Scotnats (aided and abetted by Hollywood myth-making) might do its best to convince you otherwise.
Her position would be no different from that which it is already in the various Commonwealth countries (including Canada and Aurtralia) of which she remains Head of State.
And for your part, please don’t come crawling over the border looking for a job when Salmond’s bullshit rainbows and unicorns promises for a prosperous economy in iScotland inevitably come to nowt.
I’m sure plenty of yes voters will however like utter hypocrites.
I’m over the border today. No crawling involved. Giruy.
Ask the typical Scotsman on the street and they might give a different opinion. Importantly, the referendum is tilting towards independence, and the justification is almost a Tea Party vs. establishment fight. But in this case, I think that is just the surface battle.
The bottom line is that nobody likes the English. Even the English don’t like the English. And after a hundred years of their tearing down their own country out of official shame at what their ancestors did, just about everybody is sick of their self-effacing, ‘it’s all our fault’ attitude.
At the same time, the Scots have to wonder how they would do on their own. And this really matters to people. Like the impulse grown children have to move out of their parents home, if they can.
Pockets are already bulging with english money after 3 races.
Some would, many wouldn’t. Many of those intending to vote ‘yes’, let alone those voting ‘no’, are wise and intelligent enough not to buy the ‘oppressed by the English’ line; and not to allow short-term discontents, perhaps with the present government, to sway a decision with such permanent consequences. Incidentally Scots already, through the constitutional anomaly of there being a Scottish but not an English Parliament, have more powers over their own affairs than do the English. Which is not to say they shouldn’t have more, as should the other partners in the Union. There is a lot to be said for a German-style federal structure.
The Scots did not become a colony in 1707 (though they had been an English colony in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries). This "Scotland is an English colony" line is nonsense.
True, England was the engine and catalyst of the Union and enthusiastically identified with "Great Britain" to the point of losing its own identity. And also true, the English majority in Westminster meant that Scotland could always be outvoted. But its union with England never made it a colony (like Wales and Ireland).
Since devolution the situation is reversed. Now Scots get to vote on English issues in addition to their own. If Scotland has its own parliament, so should England. True, both situations were unfair (first to Scotland, now to England). And as I understand it, the common people of England were as against the Union as were the Scots.
Don't misunderstand; I'm all for Scottish independence because that will mean English independence and the end of England's submersion into "Great Britain." My beef is not with Scottish independence per se but its left wing nature and its apologists on Free Republic who seem to think that the Scots are the Holy Chosen People Of Good Old American Individualism.
Why don't you Celtolators visit the web sites of your beloved Celtic nationalist organizations and see how pro-Communist and anti-American they are???
Yep, I predict violence and turmoil. The peace process had more or less laid the demons there to rest. Northern Ireland will not want to join the bankrupt republic the state it is in, but a vocal minority of republicans may want to start trouble again. This really was a sleeping dog that should have been left to lie.
It's only been a country since 1707. England was a country long before that and did just fine. Why are you so opposed to England being independent again?
“...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Yeah, I think Abraham Lincoln abolished that Idea, at least in this country.
Abraham Lincoln, huh? I suppose you've never heard of the Alien and Sedition Laws of 1798, passed and supported by some of the people who were the most radical anti-government patriots during the Revolution.
No country looks kindly on its own dismemberment . . . even one that began that very way.
Yes!!!
The Celtic nationalists are a major reason for that attitude. Which, by the way, won't be improved by your engaging in more Angle-bashing for hating themselves.
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