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Scottish independence: Decapitate Britain, and we kill off the greatest political union ever
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 08 Sep 2014 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 09/08/2014 2:19:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Right: it’s time to speak for Britain. If these polls are right, then we are on the verge of an utter catastrophe for this country. In just 10 days’ time we could all be walking around like zombies – on both sides of the Scottish border.

I don’t just mean that we will be in a state of shock, though that will obviously be true: most people (especially the Scots) have yet to think through the horrific financial and constitutional implications of an English-Scottish divorce.

I mean that we will be zombies, walking dead, because a fundamental part of our identity will have been killed. We will all have lost a way of thinking about ourselves, a way of explaining ourselves to the world. We are on the verge of trashing our global name and brand in an act of self-mutilation that will leave our international rivals stunned, gleeful and discreetly scornful.

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TOPICS: Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; country; england; english; indyref; international; rivals; scotland; scots
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1 posted on 09/08/2014 2:19:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I would view this in a slightly different manner. Big governments don’t represent residents anymore....they represent lobbyists and agendas.

I would agree....the British military will rapidly downsize within four years if this goes through, and barely have a ground force and a marginal navy. I also think they’d have to give up their UN permanent seat on the security council, and the G7 conferences would fall in the future (it never had any positive contributions anyway).

Do the math....there are a minimum of five different European countries serious about breaking off. This is simply the first step. I’d expect Ottawa to revisit their episode, and for some state or two of Mexico to get serious about this over the next decade. Big doesn’t necessarily mean better....it never did.


2 posted on 09/08/2014 2:24:00 AM PDT by pepsionice
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What are we to tell them in the future, if the Scots vote to go it alone? That they have become citizens of the rUK (rest of the UK) and that they must uphold rUkish values? We could tell them that they were all now “English” – but that doesn’t mean quite the same in a city where 40 per cent were born abroad and where not everyone can have an “English rose” complexion.
3 posted on 09/08/2014 2:35:18 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If the result is Yes, Alex Salmond has declared Independence Day to be March 24 2016: exactly 309 years since the Acts of Union that joined England and Scotland were signed.
4 posted on 09/08/2014 2:41:40 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Why would Scottish independence become a catastrophe? Scotland can become independent...and then negotiate some sort of union (of equals). Why is England panicking?
5 posted on 09/08/2014 2:42:52 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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Scottish independence: Vote rigging fears
6 posted on 09/08/2014 2:46:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-07/scottish-independence-looms-as-iceberg-moves-toward-u-k-.html


7 posted on 09/08/2014 2:51:07 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: pepsionice

I think the whole vote is one not based on Scotland v’s England or not wanting to be British. It is about the same thing that drives up the UKIP vote. It is about being ruled rather than being served, it is about being told that Islam is good and we must tolerate their evil religion, it is about the government’s of this world being more answerable to the great leftist movements (see UN/EU) or the biggest banks and businesses, it’s about having new moralities forced down their throats - it is in fact a vote against where they find themselves in the world. If I could vote my State (South Australia) away from the rest of my country in the self delusional belief that it would turn back the clock to something I know was once better then I would do that. I can’t - the Scots might think they can - I think they will be disappointed no matter the result of the vote!


8 posted on 09/08/2014 2:53:06 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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Scottish independence: 10 days to referendum - Live

Twitter / Search - #indyref

9 posted on 09/08/2014 2:58:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I suspect last ditch scare tactics will become increasing intense in these last few days.


10 posted on 09/08/2014 3:02:07 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There is only one way to guarantee more powers for Scotland – #VoteYes #indyref pic.twitter.com/y5E50wD9xN— Yes Scotland (@YesScotland) September 8, 2014


11 posted on 09/08/2014 3:03:47 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Banks hit as Scottish independence supporters take lead in poll

Scotland split jitters send sterling to 10-month low

12 posted on 09/08/2014 3:09:30 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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A wee #yes tune for a Monday https://t.co/tcUobBNbTq #indyref— Fraser / Friseal (@Fraslet) September 8, 2014


13 posted on 09/08/2014 3:11:29 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cowboy Bob

That is what I don’t get; so Scotland decides to determine their own life and way of living and some how this is some major issue or drama or Shakespearean tragedy of Biblical proportions? The world isn’t ending, it’s just change as always.


14 posted on 09/08/2014 3:23:31 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: PoloSec

Yes they will, with the commercials and such getting more and more dire.


15 posted on 09/08/2014 3:23:58 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: pepsionice

“Big doesn’t necessarily mean better....it never did.”

This will be a blow to the communist one-world-state folks. During an economic downturn in Texas about thirty years ago an economist made the argument that an independent Texas could easily recover by having control over its own currency and economic policies. But it was hopelessly tied to national currency and policies that were damaging its recovery. (The author worked through each national policy and how it hurt Texas.)

On the other hand, being too small is bad also. This is what lead to world war 1. Each country, to survive, aligned itself with others. Then, like NATO today, when one was attacked they all got dragged into war.

Huge would be just fine if it weren’t for people who get into power with agendas that are, essentially, anti-human.


16 posted on 09/08/2014 4:08:41 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What are we to tell them in the future, if the Scots vote to go it alone? That they have become citizens of the rUK (rest of the UK) and that they must uphold rUkish values? We could tell them that they were all now “English” – but that doesn’t mean quite the same in a city where 40 per cent were born abroad and where not everyone can have an “English rose” complexion.

The UK's problem isn't that they are about to lose Scotland. It's that they lost England a long time ago.

17 posted on 09/08/2014 4:34:31 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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We will all have lost a way of thinking about ourselves, a way of explaining ourselves to the world.”

Um...you did that a LONG time ago....


18 posted on 09/08/2014 5:08:34 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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This article is actually fascinating. Boris really only talks about culture, not politics or political union.

Would that they had spared British culture a long time ago, before embracing everything that is socialistic, gay and Muslim.


19 posted on 09/08/2014 5:14:38 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Berlin_Freeper
We are told that if Scotland votes to cut its ties with England, that will be a disaster on a par with the loss of the American colonies in 1776; but it is far worse than that. Scotland isn’t a colony, for heaven’s sake. It’s a part of our being, of what makes us “us”

Time to take back those 13 colonies also! /sarc

20 posted on 09/08/2014 5:19:28 AM PDT by McGruff
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