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Dashboard video shows shooting of unarmed driver
http://news.yahoo.com ^ | 09/25/2014 | By JEFFREY COLLINS

Posted on 09/25/2014 10:42:36 AM PDT by redreno

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To: wardaddy

No, from some of the comments I’ve read, I’m not.


101 posted on 09/25/2014 12:37:03 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; 12th_Monkey
"what was he doing out of the car"

That particular video has been cropped and edited. If you look at the YouTube or PINAC version, it appears the man had pulled into the C Store & gotten out before or as the officer pulls into the parking lot.

You can't say with certainty but it also appears that the officer came out of his car with his pistol drawn. Either that or he is very fast on the draw.

102 posted on 09/25/2014 12:37:29 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: xrmusn
I think a lot of this stems from when ‘they’ decided 4 years of Military life as a big plus for going into Law Enforcement was trumped by a 20 yo with 2 years Junior College under his belt.

Yep that's where you get your stable, disciplined, threat experienced, cool under pressure, courteous peace officers.

"They" want revenue officers, shoot 'em and empty their wallets.

103 posted on 09/25/2014 12:38:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Dutchboy88
Oh no...let’s just shoot him and send his corpse to his wife. Then let’s pay the victim $ 100000000 because his reaching into the car would not have endangered the officer until the shotgun actually was discharged into the cop’s chest. We need a rule that says, “Until the gun actually kills you, you must not, cannot return fire.” There we go, boys.

This has to be one of the most idiotic things I've seen on Free Republic recently. The victim didn't even have a firearm. Don't you think the cop could have waited long enough to determine if there was an actual threat, as opposed to just shooting the man because the copy wet his panties.

104 posted on 09/25/2014 12:38:40 PM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: bigbob

Here’s the longer video, the guy was already standing outside of his car....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs


105 posted on 09/25/2014 12:40:13 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Beagle8U
He was begging to get shot.

We must have seen different videos. In the one I watched, Trooper Groubert was begging to be charged with a felony.

106 posted on 09/25/2014 12:40:20 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Opinions don't affect facts. But facts should affect opinions, and do, if you're rational)
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To: zeugma
"This has to be one of the most idiotic things I've seen on Free Republic recently. The victim didn't even have a firearm."

Of course all of your inbred genius friends are right! Again, let the man REACH for a weapon, shoot the cop in the chest, send his dead carcass home to his wife and kids and make you co-king with Obama. I like it...

107 posted on 09/25/2014 12:41:52 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: 12th_Monkey
So a cops is supposed to be a mind reader and know what the dude was going to do? So for the haters here, does the cop need to be shot, stabbed or assaulted FIRST before he earns the right to protect himself???

Did the LEO not ask to see his drivers license? Did the victim not comply?

Is it OK to shoot unarmed motorist? Did the victim have any weapon in his hand?

And if the LEO did not see weapon prior to firing at the victim, why did the LEO shoot the victim?

This was not even a felony stop. No crime was even committed by the victim.

Why would the LEO respond like this was some known extremely violent wanted person? Why would the LEO respond like this was an enemy combatant?

This was not justified by any stretch of the imagination and I hope anyone alleging it is justified, are not involved in law enforcement at any level.

108 posted on 09/25/2014 12:42:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: -YYZ-

don’t think I said anywhere that the cops can go shooting anyone if they are nervous or deserve carte blanche.

So if this idiot is digging in his vehicle and doesn’t comply with the cops directions, then the cop needs to wait for the gun to make it’s appearance before he can defend himself??

What I do think would have been a better option was for the dimwit driver to be tazed first before the cop pulled his gun. Maybe better training for the cop??


109 posted on 09/25/2014 12:43:41 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Here’s the whole video, he was already out of the car so basically what you have here is a cop shooting a citizen on private property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs


110 posted on 09/25/2014 12:44:31 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: 12th_Monkey

I really hope you’re not involved in law enforcement at any level.


111 posted on 09/25/2014 12:45:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: redreno

WTF?

Anybody ever google the video of Kyle Dinkheller’s murder by Andrew Brannan (effin’ POS)?

Eerily similar.....
I want to know what happened before the video started to get the cop to come over.


112 posted on 09/25/2014 12:46:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Beagle8U
The cop likely did shoot too fast,

I'm not so sure. If it had been me I think I would have started shooting at about the same time. Better to be judge by twelve...

But then I'm not in law enforcement.

113 posted on 09/25/2014 12:46:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ansel12

thanks for that, I didn’t realize I wasn’t in Guadalcanal

So your assumption then is all drivers tell the truth and no cop has been ever shot for waiting on a drive to get his/her license. Good to know


114 posted on 09/25/2014 12:46:38 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Little Ray

I think that a taser would have been the better option. We will see, officer will be investigated, I’m sure a grand jury and a tribe of slip-n-fall lawyers will get involved.


115 posted on 09/25/2014 12:49:00 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: 12th_Monkey
>>So a cops is supposed to be a mind reader and know what the dude was going to do?<<

The cop asks for his liscense, the guy goes into the car to get his license and you wonder what the guy is doing? The guy is complying with what the cop demands and the cop shoots him is somehow OK with you?

116 posted on 09/25/2014 12:49:46 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Mr Rogers

Were you their? How do you know what is going through the cops mind? Do you have ESP??


117 posted on 09/25/2014 12:50:12 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: laplata

I agree with that


118 posted on 09/25/2014 12:50:45 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: rockrr

yes


119 posted on 09/25/2014 12:51:14 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: redreno
Levar Jones' painful groans and then-Trooper Sean Groubert's reply — "Well you dove head first back into your car"

Anyone who states this cop should be fired answer this question:

How was the officer to know that once Jones came back out from the vehicle that he wasn't holding a gun himself ready to shoot the officer?

Anyone with half a brain knows by now that whenever you're stopped by a police officer you keep your damn' hands where the officer can see them so as not to establish yourself as a potential threat to the officer's safety first.

120 posted on 09/25/2014 12:51:17 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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