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FBI chief: Apple, Google phone encryption perilous [Whine alert]
AP ^ | 9/25/2014 | KEN DILANIAN

Posted on 09/25/2014 6:27:38 PM PDT by markomalley

The FBI director on Thursday criticized the decision by Apple and Google to encrypt smartphones data so it can be inaccessible to law enforcement, even with a court order.

James Comey told reporters at FBI headquarters that U.S. officials are in talks with the two companies, which he accused of marketing products that would let people put themselves beyond the law's reach.

Comey cited child-kidnapping and terrorism cases as two examples of situations where quick access by authorities to information on cellphones can save lives. Comey did not cite specific past cases that would have been more difficult for the FBI to investigate under the new policies, which only involve physical access to a suspect's or victim's phone when the owner is unable or unwilling to unlock it for authorities.

"What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to hold themselves beyond the law," Comey said. At another point, he said he feared a moment when "when people with tears in their eyes look at me and say, 'What do you mean you can't?'"

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"What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to hold themselves beyond the law"

Translation: what concerns me is that market demand has resulted in some technology that would slow you from being able to assert their 4th Amendment rights (that pesky Constitution, ya know)

I guess today's government also objects to people being able to encrypt email...and people having the right to lock their houses...

1 posted on 09/25/2014 6:27:38 PM PDT by markomalley
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Obola’s feral government wants to know everything we think, do or say, yet we still aren’t allowed to see Obola’s real birth certificate or the video of Obola’s speech at the Rashid Khalidi event.


2 posted on 09/25/2014 6:32:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: markomalley

FBI chief: Sealed envelopes dangerous.


3 posted on 09/25/2014 6:32:19 PM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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To: markomalley

He should have come out with a sad violin playing, with 8 or 9 weeping widows behind him.
“See?! This could be you! You phone encrypting MONSTER!”


4 posted on 09/25/2014 6:40:11 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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5 posted on 09/25/2014 6:41:34 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: markomalley

“Comey did not cite specific past cases...”

Actually what he really meant was, “I just made this sh!t up to justify my otherwise indefensible claim. Hey, it works for DHS and DOD”.


6 posted on 09/25/2014 6:58:21 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Every trash can has a lid, the DNC lid is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (aka Debbie Dipsh!t))
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To: markomalley

You can keep your smart phone, I’m perfectly happy with my “drooling moron” phone. All they would find on it would be text messages to my sister on how to make moms potato salad and pictures of my cats.

CC


7 posted on 09/25/2014 7:17:04 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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8 posted on 09/25/2014 7:17:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a Yup.statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: markomalley; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
The FBI Director doesn't like Apple's new privacy policies. . . Oh, and Google's as well. . . Google? What privacy is that? PING!


Apple Privacy Policy Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

9 posted on 09/25/2014 7:39:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Obola’s feral government wants to know everything we think, do or say, yet we still aren’t allowed to see Obola’s real birth certificate or the video of Obola’s speech at the Rashid Khalidi event.

His BC was on a hard drive that crashed. So was his video speech. As you say, why is he so secretive about himself? Privacy for himself, but not for thee or me.

10 posted on 09/25/2014 7:53:53 PM PDT by roadcat
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Beyond the law?

Since when privacy and equal defense was dead?

Like they always yield the right conclusions out of the information they get.


11 posted on 09/25/2014 7:59:56 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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Yep. but cops can still use that to force you to recollect the recipe, and if you forget parts of it, they will remind the jury of how a liar you are. i have seen it done.


12 posted on 09/25/2014 8:01:54 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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> Comey cited child-kidnapping and terrorism cases

It’s always “for the children”.


13 posted on 09/25/2014 8:10:35 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: markomalley

Seems like the FBI wants to deprive us of our 5th amendment rights.


14 posted on 09/25/2014 8:38:42 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Bomb ISIS; bomb them again; bomb them again; kill all survivors; take no prisoners.)
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To: lavaroise

And then I turn to the jury and say “jeez, it’s just German potato salad you don’t have to make a federal case out of it! Besides, I made enough for everyone!”

CC


15 posted on 09/25/2014 8:39:25 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: markomalley

perfect example of propaganda...create an issue that doesn’t exist...who TRUSTS what any OBAMA directed agency SAY is true ?

the FBI publically complaining isn’t PROVABLE...its all words....PROVE IT


16 posted on 09/25/2014 9:05:18 PM PDT by Understand the stimulus
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“FBI chief: Sealed envelopes dangerous.”
While you are joking, it’s not too far a stretch.

I have to wonder if Law enforcement today just want to monitor facebook, look at cameras and cell records, rather than solve crimes. It’s like they don’t know how to investigate crime anymore, hence the complaint.


17 posted on 09/25/2014 9:11:58 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: markomalley
Neither iOS (Apple's ooerating system nor Andoid (Google's operating system), nor any third party security solutions that run on those OS's, such as Blackphone, offer voice security. They can be hacked.

Only Blackberry offers voice security, either through Blackberry Enterprise server or with a Secusmart chip at both ends. Blackberry bought Secusmart last month. Angela Merkel uses A Blackberry Q10 smartphone with a Secusmart chip to avoid NSA snooping of her voice communications.

18 posted on 09/25/2014 9:40:26 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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perfect example of propaganda...create an issue that doesn’t exist...who TRUSTS what any OBAMA directed agency SAY is true ?

You know, this isn't really a partisan thing, or at least it shouldn't be. Everyone knows that if the GOP were in charge they would be saying the exact same thing, and sadly there would be people on FR who would agree with them.

I'm in more danger from the government than from any terrorist.

19 posted on 09/25/2014 10:15:29 PM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: Kennard
Neither iOS (Apple's ooerating system nor Andoid (Google's operating system), nor any third party security solutions that run on those OS's, such as Blackphone, offer voice security. They can be hacked.

Actually, Apple does, if you use FaceTime voice or visually. It is 128 bit encrypted and Apple does not archive anything, nor can they decrypt the messages being transferred between you and the recipient. Also, iMessage is encrypted the same way. . . and also not archived. They can only be eavesdropped on the old fashioned way. . . someone hanging from the eaves and listening.

Otherwise, you are correct. The voice over cellular is dependent on the security of the carrier. . . as is the messaging.

20 posted on 09/25/2014 11:22:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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