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Help to Fully Accept Sikhs in the US Military
Change.org ^ | 10/11/2014 | Vaishali Rana

Posted on 10/17/2014 6:50:07 AM PDT by thetallguy24

"The message of the Sikh faith, although peaceful, has a strong theme of justice and upholding human rights running through it." My dear friend's cousin, Major Kamaljit Khalsi, will be going in front of congress to fight for Sikhs Service in the US Military. We need 100,000 signatures but are only at 5700. Please sign the petition and please share with your friends and family to help everyone. This isn't only for Sikhs but anyone from different faiths that look to join and serve their country."

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We, the undersigned individuals, respectfully call on your Administration to give devout Sikh Americans an equal opportunity to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces.

The Sikh community has been an integral part of the American fabric for over a century and made numerous contributions to the progress and prosperity of our society, including a proud tradition of military service dating back to World...
We, the undersigned individuals, respectfully call on your Administration to give devout Sikh Americans an equal opportunity to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces.

The Sikh community has been an integral part of the American fabric for over a century and made numerous contributions to the progress and prosperity of our society, including a proud tradition of military service dating back to World War I. Unfortunately, the U.S. military effectively banned devout Sikh soldiers from serving in the 1980s and continues to severely limit their ability to do so.

As you are aware, the U.S. Army recently made limited progress by granting three Sikh soldiers the opportunity to serve while wearing turbans and maintaining unshorn hair and beards in accordance with their religion. Two of these patriotic Americans have served in Afghanistan. One received a Bronze Star Medal for his service, and another earned a NATO Commendation Medal.

America’s allies, including Great Britain, Canada, and India, presumptively allow Sikhs to serve in their militaries. By allowing devout Sikhs to serve with their articles of faith intact, America's military can project core values of pluralism and equal opportunity to the world and expand its pool of qualified soldiers. We therefore call on you to end the presumptive ban on devout Sikh soldiers in the U.S. Armed Forces so that patriotic Sikh Americans can freely serve the nation they love.

Sincerely,
[Your name]




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KEYWORDS: army; defense; marines; navy
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To: ansel12

Dude, get a grip - your coming off like some kind of nut case.

I’m on your side I think.

You must have hated history when you went to school.

I find history fascinating wherever I find it. I passed by the 2 forts mentioned in the article when I was going up to Kohat and the tribal areas but didn’t learn of the story of the fight until years later.

Maybe because the Muslims I was working with didn’t like the idea of getting their butts kicked by the Sikhs.

So for at least the second time I’ll tell you I don’t support any special accommodations for any religious groups in our military.


61 posted on 10/17/2014 2:12:48 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

Me get a grip, hated history? You have two such posts so far, how about you take a breath and get a grip on yourself?

I clearly love history and why are you posting so irrationally and with such hostile nonsense?

To: PeteB570
Why the crack, the reason it is so recognizable is because of the pro Sikh arguments that we see on these threads about our military and the Sikh agitators, which seem to rely on old history involving India.

All I said to you is that we aren’t 1800s India.
57 posted on 10/17/2014, 12:19:36 PM by ansel12


62 posted on 10/17/2014 2:22:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Dude you have some serious issues you need to work out.

Have a very SF day.


63 posted on 10/17/2014 2:26:53 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

Sorry, but it isn’t me posting all that weird emotionalism and having such strong overreactions to whatever it is that you are reacting to in post 51, in this discussion about Sikh militantism in the American military.

To: PeteB570
Yeah, we aren’t India in the 1800s.
51 posted on 10/17/2014, 10:38:39 AM by ansel12


64 posted on 10/17/2014 2:31:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Calm down before your blood pressure pops.

Un-grit your teeth and stop with the coffee for tonight.

I don’t see anyone emotional in this thread but you.

What happened? A Sikh kick your cat years ago?


65 posted on 10/17/2014 2:55:45 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: thetallguy24

Nah, they always call in Sikh!


66 posted on 10/17/2014 3:00:42 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ansel12
Sikhs wear their beard, turban, khalsa, etc. out of discipline and faith.

It has absolutely no negative impact on combat performance. If anything, the Sikhs have a renowned and respected record of being tough and courageous warriors. When Sikhs were in the military, they always weight toward combat arms.

So, yes, the prohibition is rooted in dogmatic ignorance.

67 posted on 10/17/2014 3:18:39 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: thetallguy24

Can Christians wear crosses and have Bibles on the desks? Its part of their religion also right?


68 posted on 10/17/2014 3:50:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: PeteB570

Strange, so now you are siding with the Sikh militants?


69 posted on 10/17/2014 3:51:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: servantoftheservant

So you want beards and nonmilitary headdress in the American military, that is your opinion, you side with the activists, that is fine.

I would like to see your proof of your factual claims though, I would like to see the unusual percentages of Sikhs towards combat arms and their reputation in the American military as being superior to Christian and atheist and Jewish soldiers.


70 posted on 10/17/2014 3:55:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Dude, put down the crack pipe and push back from the keyboard.


71 posted on 10/17/2014 7:36:45 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Muslims may have loyality problem in action with other Muslims—this will not happen with Sikhs

Beant Singh served as Indira Gandhi's "loyal" bodyguard for 10 years before he pumped 30 bullets into her. By the way, his "martyrdom day' is coming up on Oct 31, you gonna attend?

you will never see a Sikh on welfare.

Does Bindy Johar collect welfare? That's a good question.

Sikh organized crime

72 posted on 10/18/2014 12:08:07 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: servantoftheservant
So, yes, the prohibition is rooted in dogmatic ignorance.

We uncivilized north americans have a lot to learn from enlightened asians.

73 posted on 10/18/2014 12:13:17 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: CynicalBear
Can Christians wear crosses and have Bibles on the desks? Its part of their religion also right?

What do Sikhs do to other sikhs who don't follow the sikh dress code? They disown them. Despite that, it never occurs to sikhs that other peoples and organizations in this world also have rules and codes of conduct.

74 posted on 10/18/2014 12:17:19 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: ricmc2175
Can you be a believing Muslim and swear allegiance to the US Constitution? If not, they whatever religion/faith/belief, you ought not be a member of the American Armed Forces or be awarded American citizenship.

Your argument ad absurdum fails.

75 posted on 10/18/2014 3:52:43 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

That’s Argumentum ad Absurdum


76 posted on 10/18/2014 5:51:50 PM PDT by ricmc2175
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