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Breaking Twitter - Early exit polls show GOP wins in KY, AR, CO, IA, KS, GA
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Posted on 11/04/2014 3:05:49 PM PST by Perdogg

Early exit polls show GOP wins in KY, AR, CO, IA, KS, GA - if those hold, GOP Senate majority is certain. Watch VA - closer than expected.

Early exit polls show GOP wins in KY, AR, CO, IA, KS, GA - if those hold, GOP Senate majority is certain. Watch VA - closer than expected.— Sean Noble (@seannobledc)



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Colorado; US: Georgia; US: Iowa; US: Kansas; US: Kentucky; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; arkansas; colorado; exitpolls; fraud; georgia; iowa; kansas; kentucky; virginia; votefraud
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To: betty boop

Betty; someone made a movie about Humbolts and Deweys tact in/on education....

It’s called “Logan’s Run”... nice movie.. disturbing but interesting..
Disturbing because the Federal school system is become just like that..
They already kill old people in a few European country’s...

SO whats old?.... thats pretty much the point..
Old is just a number.. Hitler, Stalin and Mao also had problems with useless eaters...
They had “Sandmen” as well.. under different titles..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ9AdSVmAZc


1,781 posted on 11/14/2014 2:35:15 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: betty boop

There aren’t many colleges presenting a classic education. There are a few though. They teach the “classics”, true, but that isn’t the point. They provide a classical education in the sense you mean, teaching people how to think, and leading them to think about the big issues of life.

http://www.thomasaquinas.edu/

http://gutenberg.edu/home/

There are others. For some reason they tend to be catholic colleges, though not all.


1,782 posted on 11/14/2014 8:39:31 AM PST by marron
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To: marron; Alamo-Girl; YHAOS; hosepipe; metmom; xzins
They teach the “classics”, true, but that isn’t the point. They provide a classical education in the sense you mean, teaching people how to think, and leading them to think about the big issues of life.

Often, such colleges follow the "great books" model of education, wherein one reads the actual historical cultural sources, rather than textbooks that summarize such material.

Thomas Aquinas College is a splendid example of a great books institution.

Another splendid example is Hillsdale College. They do not take a dime of taxpayer funding. Happily, this means that federal and state educrats have little leverage to use against them if they do not comply with the educrats' prescribed orthodoxies. Which Hillsdale — a liberty-loving institution — actively opposes and resists. They actively reach out to the national community with their free on-line courses — check out the latest, "The Presidency and the Constitution." Then there is their free newsletter, Imprimis, which features wonderful writers from inside and outside academe engaging critically important topics. The November issue, now out and available on-line, is "Effects of the Affordable Care Act on Economic Productivity," by Casey Mulligan of the University of Chicago.

Then there's Hillsdale's Washington, D.C.-based Kirby Center, a sort of lobbying organization that vigorously promotes the Constitution and conservatism on Capitol Hill and beyond.

To return to our main issue: Under the great books model, one must actively do one's own thinking and analyzing, rather than just passively receive pre-fab material composed by "experts" and "pre-digested" for us. This is the progressive approach to pedagogy. E.g., you don't actually have to read Herodotus; instead you get a description of who he was and what he said.

Some catholic colleges and universities have become quite progressive in recent times. You can pretty much ascertain which are the progressive ones by finding out whether or not they use the great books model in their humanities departments....

Anyhoot, just some thoughts, FWTW. Thanks so much for your keen observations, dear brother in Christ!

1,783 posted on 11/19/2014 10:33:23 AM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; YHAOS; metmom
Just a quick comment: “Common Core” is an initiative by the elite to consolidate their hold over the education sector.

Yep. Another Trojan Horse. We are not to ask who gets to decide what goes into this "common core." Common core of what?

Certainly the progressive educrats will try to swallow up internet, private, charter, and home schools. They detest liberty on principle.

But where does it say that Christians are helpless against this onslaught on traditional character formation and the future well-being of our children? Where does it say we cannot push back whenever we can, wherever we stand? Where are the "warriors" of — and for —Christ?

For instance, do you know what's in your child's textbooks? If you don't like what you find, don't hesitate to complain to the principal, school superintendent, and/or school board!!! In most cases, the last is composed of elected officials upon whom political pressure might successfully be applied....

1,784 posted on 11/19/2014 11:00:25 AM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: betty boop

Go here: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2014/November/Texas-Tussle-History-Debate-Heats-Up-Ahead-of-Vote/

If it is true that the socialists have gained control of the education realm (excluding internet, home, and private schooling), then it is also true that they have not (yet) gained control of the religion realm of living.

As detailed in a number of places, the conservative religious vote won this past mid-term election. That is why the fear about pastors speaking out about issues of the day from their pulpits.

The connectivity of churches nationwide is a real thing, and a whispering campaign among churches can spread ideas in a matter of days.


1,785 posted on 11/19/2014 11:10:39 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: betty boop
But where does it say that Christians are helpless against this onslaught on traditional character formation and the future well-being of our children? Where does it say we cannot push back whenever we can, wherever we stand? Where are the "warriors" of — and for —Christ?

There are other options as well.

I know that some object to Christians pulling their kids out of the schools under the impression that if they stayed and fought, things would get better, but in reality, that hasn't happened for the last several decades.

Starving the beast then becomes the option. Private school, religious school, home school.

Anything but sacrificing your child's childhood.

If it were merely poor academics, that could be countered easily enough with supplementing at home. The problem has become the indoctrination into liberal thought and Marxism and the over sexualization of the children.

The damage done in that arena cannot be overcome and will have an impact on future generations as these kids grow up to be damaged adults with no good moral foundation.

1,786 posted on 11/19/2014 11:59:40 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: betty boop
where does it say that Christians are helpless against this onslaught on traditional character formation and the future well-being of our children? Where does it say we cannot push back whenever we can, wherever we stand? Where are the "warriors" of — and for —Christ?

As we have said many times: Build the culture you want to live in. Don't wait for the culture to reform itself, don't wait for the government to change directions, don't wait for anyone else to give you permission to do anything. Build the culture you want to live in and do it yourself.

1,787 posted on 11/19/2014 12:02:15 PM PST by marron
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To: metmom
I know that some object to Christians pulling their kids out of the schools under the impression that if they stayed and fought, things would get better, but in reality, that hasn't happened for the last several decades.

I have often heard people say we should stay and fight to reform the public schools. But if that could be accomplished within a decade or two, remember that your kids don't have a decade or two; they only have now.

You have to take command of their education in the now, because a kid only has now.

1,788 posted on 11/19/2014 12:04:29 PM PST by marron
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To: betty boop
They detest liberty on principle.

Well said, dearest sister in Christ!

And I strongly agree, being complacent will not do.

1,789 posted on 11/20/2014 8:57:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; marron; hosepipe; YHAOS; metmom
"They detest liberty on principle."

Having thought that statement over further, dearest sister in Christ, I find I need to qualify it.

Progressive thinkers detest liberty on principle — as long as it's the liberty of others. In their own minds, they themselves are, of course, exempt from this rule: They want absolutely unfettered liberty of action for themselves. To gain power in the public sphere therefore entails that the liberty of others be totally suppressed. Progressives finally see every public question in terms of a zero-sum game — expressed as a matter of social and political power. E.g., if anyone benefits, it must come at the expense of another. Oh, and don't forget: God is dead. So He can't stop us.

Or so they assume.

What a great way to polarize and divide what formerly was a more-or-less unified, society in common dedicated to the equal dignity, inalienable rights and equal justice for every citizen. That sort of thing is NOT a zero-sum game. It is the prescription for the empowerment of the human individual.

Which is an idea, ever since John Dewey, that the Progressive Educrats have been trying to smother in its cradle.

But we know "which side" they play for. Suffice it to say, they are no lovers of God.

Thank you so much for writing, dearest! and for noticing that complacency in the face of this demonic assault on Christianity and American society is not an option!

1,790 posted on 11/21/2014 10:23:23 AM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: metmom; Alamo-Girl; xzins; marron; hosepipe; YHAOS
If it were merely poor academics, that could be countered easily enough with supplementing at home. The problem has become the indoctrination into liberal thought and Marxism and the over sexualization of the children.... The damage done in that arena cannot be overcome and will have an impact on future generations as these kids grow up to be damaged adults with no good moral foundation.

Indeed, dear sister in Christ, that is the chilling. mind-numbing horror that such folks are systematically perpetrating on the rising generation of American children. And they call it "public education." But what are they "educating?" Future savages — or slaves maybe?

I know you are a battle-tested warrior on such issues. I was totally delighted to hear that your (home-schooled) daughter, R, received her B.S. in Physics with honors from Stanford last Spring.

If the public schools continue to refuse to transmit American history and culture, then alternatives must be found.

Not everyone can home-school their children. Then the options become private school or — better — charter schools.

Private schools are notoriously expensive in my part of the world, approaching $32,000 per year in secular institutions. They are thus not an option for most people.

Religiously-affiliated schools might have lower tuition rates. But then, maybe not. I know of a religiously-affiliated school in New York City (which has been in the news recently, due to protests against its draconian dress-code) whose annual tuition is $32,000.

Plus parents who pay tuition at religious schools have already paid their "pound of flesh" into the public schools, via property taxes. Looks like a sort of double taxation to me, just to educate one's own child in the manner one thinks proper and beneficial to the child. Only parents have the right to specify such things, WRT their own progeny.

Charter schools are probably the best prospect for most people, who want to remove their children form the physical and intellectual damage they would suffer by remaining in the public school.

Perhaps needless to say, charter schools have been the main targets of the politically, ideologically-driven Progressive Left. [It's that "teachers union thing," dontcha know? The PL not only must corrupt people into slavery, but they then must retain the slaves they recruited... I suppose this gets expensive after a while. But then, the PL is blythe to pass along such bills to the U.S. and State taxpayer....]

We are so being "conned!!!" Wake up, people! Bestir yourself! Speak truth to power every now and then!

At the end of the day, We Christians do have God on our side. I place all my faith and hope and love in Him. He does not forsake those who love Him.

Thank you so very much, dear metmom, dear sister in Christ, for sharing your insights!

1,791 posted on 11/21/2014 11:36:59 AM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; xzins; marron; YHAOS; metmom
Progressive thinkers detest liberty on principle — as long as it's the liberty of others.
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What a concept... two poles.. your liberty and MINE...
I hear ya.. They are INDEED Bullies...

BULLYS................

It's really that simple.. two teams.. it's about liberty..

AND the theft of liberty... liberty purloined.. stolen.. swiped.. ripped off.. intimidated.. hornswoggled..

MARXism(socialism) is theft of liberty... pure and simple..
I've never heard it explained quite so clearly..

One team stealing others liberties on a massive scale..
Two teams one team FOR liberty for all, and one team against liberty for all..

AND there some on BOTH teams confused as to the point of the GAME...
WITH some expressly ON PURPOSE exacerbating the confusion..

Some on one team would be on the other and vice verse had they known the point of the game..
Would be quite interesting (( IF )) it was not a game..
BUT in your face, rubber hits the road, reality..

Simply; theft of liberty.. probably "yours"...
God given liberty... stolen.. -OR- given away..
Amazing to observe.. (lock and load)..

Nice meme Betty..

1,792 posted on 11/21/2014 12:17:41 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: marron; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; metmom; xzins; YHAOS
Build the culture you want to live in. Don't wait for the culture to reform itself, don't wait for the government to change directions, don't wait for anyone else to give you permission to do anything. Build the culture you want to live in and do it yourself.

Looks like a good practical plan to me, dear marron, brother in Christ!

But in the next stage, one must wonder "who" decides what the common culture "IS," such that it could be "reformed?" According to what standard, what model???

We the People are in the throes of a full-on culture war. It looks chaotic, it looks all so complicated.

But sift all this down to the ground, and you will find that this "war" is composed of two "sides" — as necessarily any war must be.

At bottom, it seems to me that the cultural divide is established quite easily. Just ask the question: "Do you believe in God?" Answer "YES" puts you in one camp. Answer "NO!" puts you in a different camp entirely — the opponents of traditional American history, constitutionalism, culture, aspiration....

And thus the battle lines have been drawn. And the opposing parties must contend with each other.

The problem is America's history and the People's traditional understanding of what the U.S.A. stands for, and of what it means to be an American citizen, is evidently up for grabs. So, bring on Chicago thugs — er, "community organizers" —to reinterpret our own actual American history and make the new model "mandatory." Using all public administrative bodies as tools empowered to ensure this result.

Oh, but I digress. Let me close by saying I believe you are exactly right in recommending that "building the culture," effectively by personal action, is fundamental, essential to the restoration of the Public Order.

As Plato noticed over two millennia ago, public questions finally, that is to say at bottom, always relate to the order of the individual human person. One can opine about Plato's supposedly nefarious "political theory" all day long [as Ayn Rand tirelessly and falsely does..].

But the fact remains: one of Plato's finest legacies to us in our own age is his observation that in any political order, or "state" whatsoever, Classical Greek philosophy had anticipated the notion that, from the very root of the Cosmos, not only life and intelligence, but also the sense of a common human community (i.e., the universal human sense of moral order), prevails eternally.

Maybe I'm getting a little off-topic here. But having recently read David Bohm's spectacular Wholeness and the Implicate Order, I would say that one cannot detach "local" experience from the wider community of which we are all parts and participants.

Your instruction to "build the culture you want to live in and do it yourself" recognizes the very model of hoped-for [see: Benjamin Franklin on this question] citizen behavior under the aegis of the American Experiment.

One must order himself before he can justly order his own family and, by extension from there, whether he likes it or not, his own local community and beyond.

For Plato,, civic virtue was self-propagating by and in families, something to be transmitted to one's children. Civic vice was seen as not only self-destructive, not only something that wrought destruction to the perpetrator, sooner or later; but far worse, was a principal source of disorder in the wider public community....

The lesson being: Moral teaching literally starts at home. The order of the person is primary; then, the order of the family. And then, the order of the public sphere — the community — of which one is necessarily part and participant.

So, let's take your great advice, dear marron: Let's build the culture we want to live in, by our own efforts (with the help of the Holy Sprit), for the benefit of the rising generation!

If WE now living don't do that, depend upon it: The PL will have won....

1,793 posted on 11/21/2014 2:24:47 PM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: hosepipe
AND there some on BOTH teams confused as to the point of the GAME... WITH some expressly ON PURPOSE exacerbating the confusion..

Ain't that what passes for "truth" nowadays, dear 'pipe, my brother in Christ!!!

Chaos reigns — as the deliberative effect of the (elected) powers that be.

But the Constitution is clear on such matters: If disorder obtains with respect to the conduct of the government relative to its constitutional duties, then it is up to the people alone to restore the civil order — by whatever just means necessary.

Probably 0bama considers such a consideration as totally laughable. If he is "emperor," then he can squish all dissent as just so many pesky bugs. And make his executive order "stick."

Oh how we do live in such interesting times, my brother, my friend!

1,794 posted on 11/21/2014 2:53:33 PM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: betty boop

by whatever just means necessary.


The liberals(socialists) will abandon power ONLY when it’s removed from their cold dead hands..

UNTIL “some” make that happen.... nothing will change..


1,795 posted on 11/21/2014 4:41:16 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Would that give a veto proof vote or do they need one or two more??


1,796 posted on 11/21/2014 4:44:16 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: betty boop

Very wise, dearest sister in Christ! Thank you!


1,797 posted on 11/21/2014 8:35:14 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; marron; xzins; metmom; YHAOS; Radix
Nice meme Betty..

Thank you ever so much, dear hosepipe, for your kind words of encouragement! Though I should tell you, the word "meme" somehow gives me the creeps....

It just sounds so "pseudo-scientific" to my ear.... In a way that the word "metaphor" never does.

I must be a cultural dinosaur.....

Go figure!!!

HUGS!!!!!!!

1,798 posted on 11/22/2014 4:01:50 PM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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To: betty boop

Thank you ever so much, dear hosepipe, for your kind words of encouragement! Though I should tell you, the word “meme” somehow gives me the creeps....


Know what you mean.. words?...the word democracy gives me the willys..

I know of few that know democracy is Mob Rule by mobsters..
The brain wash has been that bad.. it’s almost worshipped..

But it is the social disease that causes socialism..
Few there be that are not “carriers”..
It’s epidemic..

Democratic, democracy an democrat are found nowhere in the American Constitution..
For damned good reason.. the founders knew it was a disease..

Not to speak that it is a lie.. a scam.. a boondoggle..
NO democracy has ever been democratic or ever will be..
Elites ALWAYS rule... they must be controlled..
Democracy gives them full REIGN... as they wax Utopian..

The American Constitution was an attempt to control them..
The word “democracy” is like the whistle to Pavlovs dogs..

Even intelligent peoples EYE ROLL back and their mouth starts watering.. when they hear it..
I HATE THAT FILTHY WORD...


1,799 posted on 11/22/2014 4:30:17 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; marron; YHAOS; xzins; metmom
the word democracy gives me the willys.... I know of few that know democracy is Mob Rule by mobsters.... The brain wash has been that bad.. it’s almost worshipped.... But it is the social disease that causes socialism.

You and Plato are on the same page here, dear brother in Christ! Plato regarded "democracy" as the fast-track to tyranny, or total lawlessness. This devolution is just a matter of time.

The Framers, however, did not create a democracy. They created a constitutional republic. Then Ben Franklin challenged the people to see whether we could "keep it."

It doesn't look that we have been very successful along those lines.

1,800 posted on 11/25/2014 10:25:23 AM PST by betty boop (Say good-bye to mathematical logic if you wish to preserve your relations with concrete realities!)
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