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Article V Now
Posted on 11/06/2014 10:22:11 AM PST by Jacquerie
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I tried to search the Archivist of the United States website to determine how many states have applied. As expected of most government sites, it was useless. Perhaps a more determined and skilled Freeper can find out.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:22:11 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
To: Jacquerie
It’s those other 33 that’s the problem..................
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:24:14 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
To: Jacquerie
What’s the point in adding Amendments if we can’t enforce the existing ones?
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:25:31 AM PST
by
Interesting Times
(WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
To: Jacquerie
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:25:53 AM PST
by
Crazieman
(Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
To: Resolute Conservative; VerySadAmerican; Nuc 1.1; MamaTexan; Political Junkie Too; jeffc; 1010RD; ...
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:26:42 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Interesting Times
Whats the point in adding Amendments if we cant enforce the existing ones? That is a common concern and easily addressed.
The only worthwhile amendments are structural, like those proposed by Mark Levin, which cannot be ignored any easier than even year elections.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:31:09 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Red Badger
Ditto that !!
Dont trust any polidiots to touch what they won’t enforce.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:32:51 AM PST
by
Squantos
( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
To: Jacquerie
The only worthwhile amendments are structural, like those proposed by Mark Levin, which cannot be ignored any easier than even year elections. Okay, I'll buy that.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:33:58 AM PST
by
Interesting Times
(WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
To: Jacquerie
If one reads about the last constitutional convention in 1787 one thing that's clear is the result may be quite different than anyone can anticipate. Fortunately (providentially), the Virginia delegation went in with a definite plan that formed a foundation for a viable national government. But even their program was substantially altered and improved through long drawn out discussion and a difficult series of tough compromises.
When someone brings up the idea of invoking Article V I always wonder what they hope or expect would come out of a convention that would be superior to the finely balanced original? And why do they believe the political class would obey a new constitution any better than one which has tradition, sanctity, and 225 years of proven durability and flexibility behind it?
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:36:25 AM PST
by
katana
(Just my opinions)
To: Red Badger
Its those other 33 thats the problem................. I think there is more support than most assume.
Most states have part time legislatures, which meet for a couple or so months per year. Their members have outside work. Many are business owners who must take away valuable time away to serve for not very much. Such people know EXACTLY the threat posed by rampant statism.
What many probably still don't know, is anything about Article V.
We must change that.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:36:34 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Crazieman
Along w the 16th, DOM, and ban abortion.
To: Jacquerie
I am glad you posted this as I was contemplating re-posting this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956489/posts from the day after the 2012 election. Since then, Levin’s book came out and while he calls for a lot more than I did, I still think that at minimum we ought to make the amendments I proposed.
I expect folks will show up here saying this whole idea is very bad.
Thanks.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:40:52 AM PST
by
rpage3
To: katana
#6 answers one of your questions.
As I implied in my post, the Framers didn't write Article V to render proposing amendments terribly difficult. However, ratification of amendments is an incredibly high hurdle and a terrific safeguard.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:40:55 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Jacquerie
Thanks!
Hoping for more states to come on board in 2015.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:41:36 AM PST
by
Repeal The 17th
(We have met the enemy and he is us.)
To: Jacquerie
Levin addresses several of the problems going on with D.C., but I fear that he doesn’t go far enough. I’d like to see amendments addressing the EPA (no regulatory authority without Congre$ional consent), the IRS (Flat or Fair tax), and an outright ban on Congressional or Executive amnesty for illegals.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:44:37 AM PST
by
SCHROLL
To: rpage3
Yes, there is a cadre of sincere Freepers who believe all we need to do is send conservatives to congress. Experience has shown that to be insufficient.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:44:47 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: katana
about the last constitutional convention in 1787... Does your entire post refer to constitutional conventions?
If so, note that this is the first and only reply here that does. All the others refer to an Article V Amendments convention.
I'd be fearful of a new Constitutional Convention, as you outline. But, I welcome with open arms an Amendments Convention.
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:44:48 AM PST
by
C210N
(When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
To: SCHROLL
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:48:44 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Article V. If not now, when?)
To: Jacquerie
Yes indeed. If you haven’t read Levin’s book get it
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posted on
11/06/2014 10:49:38 AM PST
by
Nifster
To: Jacquerie; All
The states need to amend the Constitution to give themselves the power to make punitive recall laws to get rid of bad-apple, federal lawmakers, federal executives and justices. The states can remove justices on a 3/4 majority state vote, just like amendments are ratified.
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