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Hillary Clinton seeks third-party opponent
NY Post ^ | Nov. 14, 2014 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 11/15/2014 6:33:51 AM PST by COUNTrecount

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To: Buffalo Head
That third party scheme will appeal to the many Kamikaze Conservatives on this forum. They view all Republicans with disdain because few can pass all 17 purity tests.

Just a bunch of RINO's in their view and it's better to throw the election to a Liberal this time to once again teach the Republicans some sort of lesson. Better to be right than win elections!


Could you go over to the folks at the Weekly Standard and NR and let them know if they don't oppose another Romney type nomination, that this would happen? Since they don't want HRC in, they should get a heads up.
41 posted on 11/15/2014 7:38:06 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: COUNTrecount

Ted Cruz should preempt this move, and run as candidate from the Free Republic Party...FRP or some other nomenclature that expresses our countries roots.

As part of his campaign he/we can educate the people in the difference between a Democracy and a Free Republic, acting like a democracy is what got us in this mess, but we must start now.


42 posted on 11/15/2014 7:41:11 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: EternalVigilance
why the hell does it matter if you win elections if you're wrong

By the time the GOP primaries are over, every single candidate will have said something that causes some group of Freepers to shout "RINO! Outcast! Unclean!"

43 posted on 11/15/2014 7:44:32 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: COUNTrecount

Be careful what you wish for.

If enough ole Reagan Democrats, Republican Tea Party, and Independent types ever get together, they could form a coalition that could defeat both leftist/lib/progressive Democrat and GOPelite nominees.

Unless and until such a coalition ever forms, we will see more-of-the-same, status quo, moderate candidates who push more government regulations, more government agencies, open borders, etc.


44 posted on 11/15/2014 7:44:51 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Grampa Dave; COUNTrecount

Perot voters are arch conservative salt-of-the-Earth patriotic Americans. Perot himself turned out to be a clown but at the time he was making a lot of sense and was reflecting the hostility that conservatives had against GHW Bush (Bush I).

Your gripe should be directed to GHW Bush and his ring of RINOs. They are the ones that threw aside the legacy of Ronald Reagan. Perot voters were Reagan supporters and were quick to see what Bush was aiming to do; New World Order, North American Union, etc.

It is unfortunate that the division gave Clinton the chance to get into the White House without a majority but a 2nd term of Bush would have brought worse; why?

Because it was the Perot movement that helped boost the conservative takeover of Congress in 1994, the first time republicans were able to control the House in more than 40 years. That would never have happened in a GHW Bush 2nd term.

And it was conservatives and Perot voters that voted in GW Bush (Bush II) in 2000 because he was thought to be much more conservative than his father and he had stated that his father had been wrong about many things and had made mistakes. He fooled conservatives but his kind won’t fool them again. For example, Romney is a closet progressive of the worst kind and he didn’t fool Perot voters who refused to vote for him and cost him the election.

Now the national GOP knows that conservatives are wiser, getting smarter and are growing. Fat chance there will be a Jeb Bush, a Romney or any other RINO nominated for 2016.

Conservative republicans need Perot voters who number 6 million plus and to get them they need a conservative nominee like Ted Cruz.

Battles are lost and won but it’s the war that needs winning. Don’t snipe at Perot voters for doing the right thing against the RINO class that has serfdom in mind for the likes of you!


45 posted on 11/15/2014 7:45:00 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: COUNTrecount

Libertarian Gary Johnson former gov. of New Mexico said he was going to run for president in 2016 as a third party candidate


46 posted on 11/15/2014 7:48:09 AM PST by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: Hostage

Yeah keep on Grubering!


47 posted on 11/15/2014 7:48:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

It works both ways. Ralph Nader, anyone? Don’t forget the Mother-Of-All Democrat vote stealers: George Wallace in 1968. Got Nixon elected.


48 posted on 11/15/2014 7:52:33 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

That’s a straw man, since the GOP has nominated candidates in the last two presidential elections who are at their core hostile to everything of importance that conservatives stand for.


49 posted on 11/15/2014 7:52:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Grampa Dave; COUNTrecount

Name calling?

Conservatives are going to wipe the floor with the likes of your kind come 2016.

You can stick your Romney and Bushes where the Sun don’t shine.


50 posted on 11/15/2014 7:56:28 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: COUNTrecount

If the GOPe forces a Bush or a Christie down our throats again then a conservative third party run is not outside the realm of possibility.


51 posted on 11/15/2014 7:58:24 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Grampa Dave

I voted for Bush and not Perot.

But seriously, Clinton or Bush?

In a country of over 300 million that is the best we can do?

Clinton or Bush explains much of the problems/misery of the past 20 years.


52 posted on 11/15/2014 8:00:22 AM PST by crusher2013
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To: Dr. Sivana
Could you go over to the folks at the Weekly Standard and NR and let them know if they don't oppose another Romney type nomination, that this would happen? Since they don't want HRC in, they should get a heads up.

It's amazing, isn't it? Time and time and time again, the GOPe shoves lousy, unappealing candidates down the throats of their erstwhile supporters. Why? Because the leadership has an ear only to their crony capitalist financial supporters; therefore, they continue to ignore what could be their natural base.

Nestled comfortably in their little echo chamber, the GOPe believes that conservatives will fall in line and vote for their lousy candidate, just like the majority of blacks do in the DemocRAT Party. And when it doesn't happen, whose fault is it? The GOPe with the tin ears to their constituents? The GOPe with no consideration for the country's future? NO! It's those "Kamikaze Conservatives" with their stupid "purity".

53 posted on 11/15/2014 8:02:20 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java
get the GOPe to shove another DemLite candidate down our throats

The flaw in your thinking is that many million registered Republicans voted for Mitt because they seriously thought he was the best candidate.

It really wasn't secret mind control rays from Karl Rove's attic.

The conservative base isn't only not a majority in the country, it is arguably not a majority of the GOP electorate.

We need to make the base bigger.

55 posted on 11/15/2014 8:06:57 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: COUNTrecount

Hitlery should fund fatso or jebbush for GOPe, then a 3rd party candidate will organically appear.


56 posted on 11/15/2014 8:09:14 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: crusher2013

Part of the problem has been our self-pride. Self-pride is boasting in ourselves, rather than in boasting in what God can and does do.

With self-pride will come perfectionism, and with that, effective men with checkered backgrounds will start to be screened out. It was dismaying to see the lead up to the 2012 presidential race. Freepers and Americans in general bashed one another over the head about Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, and a host of other people all of whom would have seriously gone after Barack Obama’s political hide and any of whom we would have been glad to have in the White House rather than Barack. Because, oh, that person has such a stark weakness somewhere. And so Mitt, acting a consummate mush, slipped in, and proceeded to lose.

I’ve seen what looks like a bit of a better approach this time around. Start rooting for a dream team which could take various configurations but which cluster around approximately the same set of notable men and women. Let the politicians themselves carry on their own battles, their own vying for dominance. The constructive conciliator is more likely to win.


57 posted on 11/15/2014 8:11:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Luke21

What she is really looking for is the Republicans to nominate Jeb.


58 posted on 11/15/2014 8:13:27 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Buffalo Head
Better to be right than win elections!

That would be the perfect description of your beloved Establishment RINOs.

59 posted on 11/15/2014 8:13:33 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Buffalo Head

We don’t need a “progressive” of either party. Not Clinton, Warren, Biden, Sanders, or Cuomo. Not Bush, Romney, Christie, or their ilk either.

It’s not about some “purity test”, as you and your ilk well know. It’s about moving the ball in our direction, beginning the journey to restoring constitutional government, not just running Big Government for a while with marginally different ends than the Dhimmicraps.

I’m really tired of Republibots.


60 posted on 11/15/2014 8:16:01 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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