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MSNBC COLUMN: Why I can’t believe Darren Wilson
MSNBC ^ | 11/28/2014 | Adam Howard

Posted on 11/28/2014 9:42:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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Wilson also testified that even after being shot and wounded several times, Brown continued to “charge” at him, with an intent to kill. “When he stopped, he turned, looked at me, made like a grunting noise and had the most intense, aggressive face I’ve ever seen on a person. When he looked at me, he then did like the hop … you know, like people do to start running,” Wilson testified.

It’s hard to fathom what is more absurd, the idea that a multiple gunshot wound victim would keep coming for more, or that a grand jury would believe it.

I’ve never been accosted by the police, which makes me something of a statistical oddity. I assume however that if I ever am, I would be terrified and I certainly wouldn’t attack an armed officer. I’m not a coward. It’s just that I just don’t have a death wish. And, contrary to some peoples’ opinions, neither do the overwhelming majority of African-Americans.

This is why it’s hard for many to understand Wilson’s story. Basic common sense tells us that if someone has a gun and you don’t, you don’t pick a fight with them and you certainly don’t run at them full speed with your arms out while being fired on. Brown tested positive for marijuana, but not for a drug that historically associated with aggressive behavior like PCP. Nothing in his history supports the notion that he was prone to sudden, heedless violence.

The concept of physically overpowering black males taunting police to shoot them feels like a myth while the prospect of being targeted by an overzealous white person, who’s finger is on the trigger, is a reality that plagues many African-Americans.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: asshat; darrenwilson; ferguson; michaelbrown; trayvons
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To: SeekAndFind

-—What was your purpose for asking?

To sniff out a potential troll who could be implying that those of us on FR would not know about the divergent witness statements and were seeking anything but justice for the parties and the community..

The simple refutation to any defenders of Michael Brown and their citation of witnesses (many of whom were publicly cited by the prosecutor as inaccurate) is the physical evidence.

Brass casings locations show Brown was moving toward Wilson
DNA found inside the police car support that there was a struggle over the gun.
Wounds in the hand with close powder burns support that there was a struggle over the gun.
Blood spatter patterns support that Brown was moving toward Wilson.
No wounds support witness statements that Brown shot in the back.
Pattern of wounds support that Brown was charging Wilson

There are so many studies showing the unreliability of eyewitness testimony, and so many of the ‘witnesses’ regarding this shooting were motivated to condemn the policeman. We can all be grateful for the sufficiency of physical evidence to guide the grand jury in making their decision.


61 posted on 11/28/2014 11:17:02 AM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: RightGeek
Your post #44 noted.

There is the most telling thing about the actual video. This is of this "unarmed child" and the small store clerk. After he had roughed up the clerk and started out the door, he turned back and advanced in menacing fashion.

His mentality shows this. Even the slightest protest against his criminal act, is seen as cause for his anger. He was dead set against the officer and turned back in anger, the same as shown against the store clerk.

62 posted on 11/28/2014 11:17:43 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably couldn’t figure out how Nixon beat McGovern in ‘72 either, deeming it highly unlikely that voters would act contrary to how he would act.


63 posted on 11/28/2014 11:23:30 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: SeekAndFind

What trash passes for journalism!


64 posted on 11/28/2014 11:24:52 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: rbg81

Just observing that people can behave irrationally yet their conduct could still be believable.


65 posted on 11/28/2014 11:28:10 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: SeekAndFind

There have been plenty of studies that indicate that Marijuana can and does in some individuals who are already prone to violence cause them to be more violent. When you lower ones inhibitions it makes it easier for the worst of them to come out and Brown had just minutes before proven that he wasn’t beyond bullying up a clerk for some smokes. He wasn’t a nice guy at all.

He was a bully and aggressive. Evidence clearly indicates beyond a doubt that he attacked the officer in his cruiser and his hand had muzzle flash residue which supports beyond a doubt the Officers story that Brown was struggling with him for the gun. This is the point where if one had any remaining delusion that Brown was just a poor young “gentle giant” it should be summarily dismissed. A person that is willing to attack an officer in his cruiser and struggle with him for his gun is a person that no longer fits the category of normal sanity.

Even if you dismiss the testimony from black witnesses that back up Officer Wilson’s testimony its beyond clear that Brown was not just a little bit aggressive but off his rocker aggressive. Its the attitude of the writer of this article that is helping young black men further down the path to their graves. It allows the ghetto black community to once again refuse responsibility for doing nothing to raise their children as to prevent the early path to prison or the grave.


66 posted on 11/28/2014 11:48:28 AM PST by Maelstorm (So you attacked a police officer and got shot? Imagine that?)
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To: Elsiejay

There were 6 gun shot wounds. The first four were non fatal to the right hand and arm with the exception of the last two which were in the head. The last and fatal one was to the top of the head and entered in such a way that it appeared that Brown was in a posture leaning forward at that point. He was completely capable of charging the officer as eye witness testimony described.


67 posted on 11/28/2014 11:54:49 AM PST by Maelstorm (So you attacked a police officer and got shot? Imagine that?)
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To: SeekAndFind

In an odd way, the Brown/Wilson case is proof of how far America has come racially.

A few decades ago they wouldn’t have had to essentially invent a narrative of racial injustice and brutality. It was there all the time for the observing.

I grew up in a Missouri city, not the deep south, but the cops then casually referred to their nightsticks as n****r-knockers. And used them accordingly.


68 posted on 11/28/2014 12:07:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

Adam, find out what the term “Sympathetic nervous system” means then come back and tell us what you find.


69 posted on 11/28/2014 12:08:47 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is also hard to fathom that an 18 year old would stick his head in a police car, assault the officer and try to steal his gun. But don’t take Wilson’s word for it. Brown’s fingerprints were on the gun.

Hard to believe or not, the evidence is the evidence. Brown did not want to get arrested for theft, assault and drug possession. His judgement was distorted by drugs. He figured he could win the battle with only one officer.


70 posted on 11/28/2014 12:10:48 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bingo! The stories were all over the place.


71 posted on 11/28/2014 12:10:49 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals are so stupid they make muslims look smart. And that’s going some.


72 posted on 11/28/2014 12:11:16 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Keep fighting is a whole hell of lot different than charging


73 posted on 11/28/2014 12:11:50 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Not necessarily. Brown never killed anyone before. wilson was on a pd that had to be disbanded for its out of control behavior.


74 posted on 11/28/2014 12:12:52 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Exactly. The story was corroborated by the witnesses and the crime scene evidence and further other witnesses who tried to tell a different story were found out to not be telling the truth and recanted their stories.


75 posted on 11/28/2014 12:15:01 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: getitright

I can’t believe Darren Wilson because I think he is a domineering, steroid taking hothead. One of our family friends said that when being a cop meant he was gunning people down in the streets, he would not be a cop anymore.


76 posted on 11/28/2014 12:15:06 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s hard to fathom what is more absurd, the idea that a multiple gunshot wound victim would keep coming for more, or that a grand jury would believe it.

Happens all the time. And when it does the forensics back it up.


77 posted on 11/28/2014 12:17:44 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Dallas59
This is why I can’t believe MSNBC...on anything.

They have to keep spewing this crap, to keep their remaining thirteen regular viewers coming back.

78 posted on 11/28/2014 12:18:39 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: TalBlack

Agree. Having read a lot of WW2 accounts, this is well known.


79 posted on 11/28/2014 12:20:51 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: SeekAndFind

ahhhh, found the word! Corroborated !!


80 posted on 11/28/2014 12:40:31 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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