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Feds push for equal access to quality teachers
Politico.com ^ | 12/23/14 | STEPHANIE SIMON

Posted on 12/23/2014 8:11:15 AM PST by rey

More than a decade ago, Congress ordered states to figure out a way to distribute qualified teachers fairly, so low-income and minority children weren’t so often stuck with inexperienced and unlicensed educators. As it turns out, they’ve done a lousy job. cut The data in the new Educator Equity Profiles come from the 2011-12 school year. States are supposed to use them to draw up new strategies for distributing teachers fairly; those plans are due to the Education Department by June 1. The department has created an Equitable Access Support Network to help states with the process.

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KEYWORDS: education; teachers
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So if you are good at your job you get to work in a hell hole and if you are mediocre or bad you get to work in a nice place? That should work well.
1 posted on 12/23/2014 8:11:15 AM PST by rey
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To: rey

“Quality teachers” want to work with students who actually want to learn.


2 posted on 12/23/2014 8:12:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Teachers are 10 percent of the equation. The other 90 percent comes from the parents and kids. The left will never admit that Asian and White parents and kids spend 10 times the amount of preparation outside the classroom that blacks spend.


3 posted on 12/23/2014 8:15:05 AM PST by Tulane
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I am getting damned tired of the whiny sh!t — no jobs, no good teachers bs.

The situation would be a heck of a lot better if the locals weren't destroying their own neighborhoods... either in a couple of weeks of rampaging riots or years and years of drugs, violence, single parent families,....

4 posted on 12/23/2014 8:19:24 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Tulane
My experience is that there are a lot of excellent teachers in challenging school environments that do a great job for the students who want to learn. On the other side of the coin, some of the worst teachers I encountered in my varied teaching experiences coasted in schools where the students will learn whatever they did.

But it sure might be fun when some of these "excellent" teachers get to deal with inner city education!

5 posted on 12/23/2014 8:21:49 AM PST by grania
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“students who actually want to learn.”

THIS.

Oh so this.

If a student refuses to do the work, learning cannot happen.
If a student _wants_ to learn, learning cannot be stopped.


6 posted on 12/23/2014 8:23:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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The free market shouldn’t be at play or anything....

So teachers should shun higher pay in the more affluent districts and put their lives at risk commuting to the hood every day. Gotcha, Democrats.


7 posted on 12/23/2014 8:23:32 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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If only Michael Brown had "quality teachers" he would never have walked out of that store with those stolen Swisher Sweets and tried to take a police officer's department-issued weapon from him.
8 posted on 12/23/2014 8:23:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Spot on.

And it is even more of a problem these days. My son spends a lot more time on homework than I ever did. Maybe 5x and close to my hours in college.

There is so much more to learn now and if you are not engaged and on top of it, you very quickly get left behind.

9 posted on 12/23/2014 8:26:15 AM PST by dhs12345
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Teachers are 10 percent of the equation.

I'd say it's more like 25 percent, but you're on the right track.

As a veteran urban school teacher, I have some experience with this topic. Here's what happens when you put actual "quality teachers" in hell-hole schools: Students who fight continue to fight. Students who cut class continue to cut class. Students who don't study continue not to study.

So test scores remain low. Then the administrators declare that those quality teachers were incompetent, and not quality teachers at all. Some will be fired. Some will move on to better school districts. Some will just hunker down and continue to try to do their best.

As a side note, there is a solution to all this. I have taught in some pretty bad schools. In even the worst ones most of the kids were good. They really did want to learn. If only the administrators had the courage to permanently remove the chronic disruptors, scores would go up.

10 posted on 12/23/2014 8:29:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Tulane

That is the real “white privilege.” An intact family that cares about you and your future.


11 posted on 12/23/2014 8:31:40 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Sounds like an “Equal Protection” clause issue to me. Gubbmint should not be allowed to tell you where and for whom you work.


12 posted on 12/23/2014 8:32:15 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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“Quality teachers” want to work with students who actually want to learn.

Yep. Our private school pays 10% less than the public system and has a waiting list of quality teachers anxious to get on there.

Teachers don't want to baby sit disruptive delinquents that have no parental expectations and zero desire to learn.

13 posted on 12/23/2014 8:32:33 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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So teachers should shun higher pay in the more affluent districts and put their lives at risk commuting to the hood every day. Gotcha, Democrats.

Quite often, there is actually a premium paid to work at the crappy schools. Quality teachers are smart enough to know that they'd rather take less money and have a conducive work environment.

14 posted on 12/23/2014 8:35:30 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: rey

I spend a lot of time in classrooms. Disruptive students should be sent out of the classroom. They try the patience of the best of teachers. They try my patience. Lol. They need one on one attention from anyone willing to put in the time. It is obvious in many cases that no one at home is giving that attention. In many cases they need male attention. I think there are two male teachers at our area elementary, and they teach PE. The principals are both female. Bad boys need male role models. Good luck finding any willing to go to a classroom.


15 posted on 12/23/2014 8:38:53 AM PST by petitfour
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I would put another way.

If you a quality teacher you have just become a slave to the state. Not only will the state set your salary but will also assign you to a school. I wonder when the state will assign a penalty (aka tax) to punish quality teachers for not wanting to work at the local warehouse for disadvantaged children, aka local public school #.

Please note those who are making this rule will never ever sent their children or grandchildren to the local warehouse for disadvantaged children, aka local public school #.


16 posted on 12/23/2014 8:39:03 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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Arnold F. Fege: His personal and professional passion is to fight for the rights of parents and families who have no voice in the education of their children, in the United States and internationally, and bridging the practical needs of the local level with common sense national policy.

Mr. Fege is beginning to mess with the property taxes of all cities to push his "social engineering" ... a clever ploy for the Feds to invade further into your private property. Beware!

17 posted on 12/23/2014 8:39:13 AM PST by yoe
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To: SampleMan
"Quality teachers” want to work with students who actually want to learn."

The majority of students also desire to learn.

Unfortunately, the disruptive, whether at school, in religion, or in a social group demand to be heard, and we have been conditioned to listen.

However, when the west dies, their voice will be extinguished forever!

18 posted on 12/23/2014 8:39:35 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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Offer quality teachers “Hazardous Duty Pay” to teach in low-income neighborhoods!


19 posted on 12/23/2014 8:55:06 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Senority...senority..senority. The senior teachers pick their schools. Does anyone think they will actually pick a living hell hole over a modern school on purpose.


20 posted on 12/23/2014 9:02:07 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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