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Growers struggle with glut of legal pot in Washington state
AP via finance.yahoo.com ^ | Jan 16, 2015 | Gene Johnson

Posted on 01/16/2015 7:20:24 AM PST by posterchild

SEATTLE (AP) — Washington's legal marijuana market opened last summer to a dearth of weed. Some stores periodically closed because they didn't have pot to sell. Prices were through the roof.

Six months later, the equation has flipped, bringing serious growing pains to the new industry.

A big harvest of sun-grown marijuana from eastern Washington last fall flooded the market. Prices are starting to come down in the state's licensed pot shops, but due to the glut, growers are — surprisingly — struggling to sell their marijuana. Some are already worried about going belly-up, finding it tougher than expected to make a living in legal weed.

"It's an economic nightmare," says Andrew Seitz, general manager at Dutch Brothers Farms in Seattle.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: agriculture; cannabis; marijuana; pot; taxes; washington; wod
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To: Disambiguator
"exorcise studios"

Are demons a big problem around there?

Depends on who you ask.

141 posted on 01/16/2015 10:49:18 AM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
his father would maintain that Richard was a "good boy" whose marijuana consumption "put him out of control,"

Dad seeks excuses for his son and for his own parenting.

142 posted on 01/16/2015 10:49:21 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
lifetime pot usage continues to grow and now stands at 44%.

It is growing at the same rate as every other evil thing happening in this country, and that is because it is just another facet of the same underlying forces at work; the corruption of our people.

143 posted on 01/16/2015 10:50:02 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
It is growing at the same rate as every other evil thing happening in this country, and that is because it is just another facet of the same underlying forces at work; the corruption of our people.

And your recommendation is that we fight the symptoms rather than the cause?

144 posted on 01/16/2015 10:53:00 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Beagle8U
"Anyone can figure out how to grow a dozen big plants a year, and 12 big plants will keep a doper deep-fried and tie-dyed 24/7/365!"

Yep its why Big Pharma wants it to remain illegal. Making whiskey is waaaaay harder than growing pot. YET making your own whiskey is illegal because the gub'ment couldn't tax it.

They cite safety concerns but that is a huge load of rubbish, its all about the moola.

When pot gets totally legalized and it will, there will be no tax boon. It will be grown in gardens right along side tomatoes.

145 posted on 01/16/2015 10:56:59 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: ConservingFreedom
I really don't see any point to answering anything you put forth. You are the primary drug advocate on this forum, and let the rest of you make no mistake about this. This guy who calls himself "ConservingFreedom" believes that all drugs should be legalized, including heroine and cocaine.

He is like the homosexuals who want to get their foot in the door with "AIDS" legislation, but who won't rest until you are baking them cakes and presiding at their "wedding" ceremonies.

This guy is going for the whole enchilada, mass death, mass disability, and mass misery. All in the name of "freedom" or as rational people understand it, "Hedonism."

He is not "Liberty", he is "Libertine."

146 posted on 01/16/2015 10:57:58 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
I really don't see any point to answering anything you put forth. You are the primary drug advocate on this forum, and let the rest of you make no mistake about this.

You think you can better persuade the rest of FR with denunciations of me than with rebuttals of my arguments? I have a higher opinion of FR. Speaking of whom ... to the rest of you: I don't advocate drugs - nor alcohol, tobacco, or a steady diet of fast food - but their legality, as befits a free people.

147 posted on 01/16/2015 11:04:38 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You, yourself, pointed out that per capita alcohol consumption increased each year of prohibition.

And where would they get such information? From the government reports that get filed about all the illegal consumption that was going on?

Think man, how can such a claim be even remotely true? Who would collect this information and how?

As with most things Libertarians say, it has the smell of made up bullsh*t. If you haven't noticed by now, let me point it out to you. Libertarians MAKE UP BULLSH*T and then repeat it endlessly until it gets spread by others. Eventually it take on the form of "Everybody knows that." Which is their whole intention for making it up in the first place. It is an ongoing effort to muddy the truth of things, and they've been working at it for decades.

148 posted on 01/16/2015 11:04:41 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp; E. Pluribus Unum; offwhite
You, yourself, pointed out that per capita alcohol consumption increased each year of prohibition.

As with most things Libertarians say, it has the smell of made up bullsh*t.

offwhite, DiogenesLamp says you're a Libertarian spouting made up bullsh*t.

149 posted on 01/16/2015 11:07:50 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: offwhite
Yet they claim that legalizing marijuana will solve all the problems associated with the "War on Drugs".

They claim anything that they think they can sell to the gullible. Just as Homosexuals claim they aren't interested in children, so too do the Libertarians claim that they aren't interested in hard drugs, but their arguments justify hard drugs to the same extent that they justify marijuana.

You open that door, and you will get the whole thing. Not just a piece of it.

150 posted on 01/16/2015 11:08:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: captain_dave
Right, and harder drug use may go down also.

You meant that as a joke, right?

Or do you believe that in the past, folks used meth, cocaine and heroin because the pot was too expensive?

151 posted on 01/16/2015 11:09:17 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Anyone believing that prohibition of any substance will solve society's ills is a fool.

No one believes it will solve all of society's ills, but it will certainly solve one very serious ill. It will solve the problem of spreading addiction to more innocent people.

152 posted on 01/16/2015 11:11:28 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: thackney; captain_dave
do you believe that in the past, folks used meth, cocaine and heroin because the pot was too expensive?

No, because having decided to break the law by using pot, they had one less reason to not use other drugs. Legalizing pot raises the barrier between it and other drugs.

153 posted on 01/16/2015 11:13:18 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Ol' Dan Tucker
Anyone believing that prohibition of any substance will solve society's ills is a fool.

No one believes it will solve all of society's ills, but it will certainly solve one very serious ill. It will solve the problem of spreading addiction to more innocent people.

Has it solved that problem to date?

154 posted on 01/16/2015 11:14:25 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: offwhite
a) If the society consisted only of adults and, b) if the adults took full responsibility for their actions and did not rely on the rest of us to care for them.

Since neither exists and will never exist, my answer is ... no.

And your point corresponds with my own personal feelings on the subject. If you are rich, and you can afford to live without taking money out of someone else's pocket to pay for you food and shelter, and if you keep your drug usage to yourself and not try to spread it to anyone else, and if you have no dependents who must rely on you for their living, then I say go ahead and smoke, shoot-up, or pill pop your brains out.

155 posted on 01/16/2015 11:15:04 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom
glass of wine, or a one-hitter bowl, eradicates free will? Says who?

Well it certainly seems to have *YOU* under control.

156 posted on 01/16/2015 11:16:29 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
No one believes it will solve all of society's ills, but it will certainly solve one very serious ill. It will solve the problem of spreading addiction to more innocent people.

How do you propose keeping illicit drugs out the hands of those who want to buy it?

157 posted on 01/16/2015 11:19:38 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Well it certainly seems to have *YOU* under control.

I'll ask again. Have you ever smoked marijuana? What makes you an expert on its effects?

158 posted on 01/16/2015 11:20:43 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Government cannot regulate morality...and PROHIBITION had to be repealed because it created a terrible black market for alcohol, that we still deal with today...it never got anyone to stop drinking, it only went underground and flourished. Marijuana is no different.

There is a big difference in Heroine and Cocaine addiction compared to Marijuana use. Of course hard core religious fanatics will object to that statement, but that is how it is. We have young criminals who got caught with a small amount of MJ and ended up being trained by the drug dealers in prison to become hard core dealers and ruined their lives.

There should be a balance in all things....not the force of compliance we see in ISLAM....that is what we had in the beginning of the War on Drugs....did it help? NO.

I do not do drugs, so don’t jump into that nonsense, I taught Criminal Justice so I know the statistics and what our history of the War on Drugs has taught us works and doesn’t work. Young lives ruined for no reason.


159 posted on 01/16/2015 11:20:59 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: DiogenesLamp
A glass of wine, or a one-hitter bowl, eradicates free will? Says who?

Well it certainly seems to have *YOU* under control.

Oh, snap. That ought to persuade the rest of FR.

160 posted on 01/16/2015 11:23:44 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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