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Explosive New Tapes on Hillary and Libya Proves Incompetence of Secretary of State
Red State ^ | 1/29/2015 | Steven Ahle

Posted on 01/30/2015 4:39:27 AM PST by HomerBohn

Top Pentagon officials and a Denis Kucinich do distrusted Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, they opened their own dialogue with the Libyan regime. Their communications with the Gadhafi regime was an effort to avoid war. Tapes of conversations between them and the Gadhafi regime were found in Tripoli. The authenticity of the tapes have been verified by the participants on the tapes reveal confidential conversations with Gadhafi’s son and another top official in Libya. The tapes have been reviewed by the Washington Times.

The tapes show that in unfiltered conversations with top Libyan leaders, that criticisms of Hillary were common. Libyan officials claims she had tunnel vision and they were forced to deny false allegations leveled at them by Clinton. The tapes show also that Hillary ignored the US intelligence community that had doubts about the narrative given at the time. That led the US into the conflict where Obama gave air cover to Al Qaeda.

An American intermediary sent directly by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to the Libyan government and who’s name has been withheld told Libyans officials:

“You should see these internal State Department reports that are produced in the State Department that go out to the Congress. They’re just full of stupid, stupid facts.”

The intermediary told the Libyans that the State Department was controlling what was being reported on the Libyan situation. And remember, the intermediary said that information was full of “stupid facts”. It was at the time of the Arab Spring and Hillary reported that the Libyan regime was going to start a program of genocide and insisted it be stopped before it began. No solid evidence is reported as being given to back up Hillary’s theories.

Gadhafi’s son Seif, spoke directly to Rep Kucinich and told him:

“It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report. Libyan airplanes bombing demonstrators, Libyan airplanes bombing districts in Tripoli, Libyan army killed thousands, etc., etc., and now the whole world found there is no single evidence that such things happened in Libya.”

Seif also told Kucinich that the trouble in Libya was not from their citizens but from radical Islamists trying to set up an Islamic state. We now know this to be absolutely true also.

Kucinich who challenged Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for the presidential nomination is quoted (To the Washington Times on the tapes) as saying:

“I had facts that indicated America was headed once again into an intervention that was going to be disastrous. What was being said at the State Department — if you look at the charge at the time — it wasn’t so much about what happened as it was about what would happen. So there was a distortion of events that were occurring in Libya to justify an intervention which was essentially wrong and illegal.”

So, Obama in making the decision to help Al Qaeda in their battle against Gadhafi, chose to ignore facts from the Pentagon and intelligence officials and acted on Hillary’s conjecture. This led directly to the events at Benghazi, where four Americans were murdered, including the ambassador, Chris Stevens. It also explains why Obama found it necessary to cover up the fact that it was a terrorist attack and not a demonstration against a twelve minute internet video.

On August 24th of that year, Kucinich wrote a letter to the White House and the State Department which included:

“I have been contacted by an intermediary in Libya who has indicated that President Muammar Gadhafi is willing to negotiate an end to the conflict under conditions which would seem to favor Administration policy.”

Kucinich said neither Obama or Clinton answered his letter. Now, the question that must be asked is why? Any agreement that would have been acceptable to Obama would include Gadhafi stepping down and turning the country over to civilian leaders. That seems reasonable enough. Why wouldn’t Obama agree to something like that immediately? What if he didn’t want civilians in charge?

The Washington Times reached out to Clinton for comment but her team refused to comment on the tapes.

Hillary was the most vocal person advocating war in Libya. She was joined by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, and her successor as secretary of state, John F. Kerry. LOL A bunch of losers. The opposition nwas made up mostly of Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

While Hillary was spewing lies about Libya being about to bring down genocide on it’s on people was highly disputed within the intelligence community because such an act would mobilize countries against Libya.

Hillary in 2016. Instead of a four year term, I suggest 25 to life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2016election; benghazi; election2016; hillarylibya; hitlery; libya; libyawar
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To: HomerBohn

The truth of the matter is that unless the GOP, or whatever they’re called these days here on FR, nominate a viable candidate that the majority of conservatives & Tea Party supporter’s can stand behind and actually go to the polls to vote for, then this corrupt beast will be elected by the left and give us another 8 years of left wing Socialist Hell.


41 posted on 01/30/2015 6:40:54 AM PST by rhubarbk (Cruz/Walker or Walker/Cruz . . . either one works for me!)
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To: Jess Kitting

This is a horribly written article. Full of incomplete sentences and sentences that don’t make any sense.

Redstate should have a red face over this one.


42 posted on 01/30/2015 6:41:11 AM PST by upchuck (Entrenched incumbency is the disease. Fresh blood is the cure.)
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To: HomerBohn

I thought Hillary was a peacenik? Qadaffi wanted to surrender, but she wasn’t interested in that. What would a peacenik be interested in?

Money. Where is Qadaffi’s fortune? Hillary has to have that large bodyguard entourage because she’s a murdering, thieving, lying pig and the Libyans are after her.


43 posted on 01/30/2015 6:44:24 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: HomerBohn

Hmmmm. Wonder if this is an orchestrated red herring that Hillary can point to downstream and discount similar stories? Kucinich’s participation just doesn’t instill confidence that this is real.


44 posted on 01/30/2015 6:49:33 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: HomerBohn

Hillary is a loose cannon. Old, brain damaged and a socialist with screaming PMS inner self.


45 posted on 01/30/2015 6:51:05 AM PST by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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To: grania

You have a point. Almost anyone would be a more safe choice than hillary and Barry, who made that commercial against the video for Pockeestahn and told the benghazi heroes’ mothers they would get the guy who did those videos and caused their sons’ deaths. They are bleeping liars, proven over and over and over again.


46 posted on 01/30/2015 6:56:20 AM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
uhhh...I live just outside Cleveland. Kucinich is consistent in his anti-war views. He was an excellent HOR rep. Nobody ever cared more about job creation in the US and fair trade and taking care of veterans. The town I'm in was gerrymandered to Marcia Fudge when the ptb broke up Kucinich's district, and it's a real loss. He was correct way back when he didn't want to privatize the electric company, and a lot of the media manipulated ridicule came for that.

He's a bit unique, for sure, but never guilty of the evil stuff so many of our DC leaders have been lately.

47 posted on 01/30/2015 7:02:05 AM PST by grania
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To: jmcenanly

....and they will self-destruct in thirty seconds.


48 posted on 01/30/2015 7:06:50 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: HomerBohn

I gotta ask, is this the same Dennis Kucinich that talks to space aliens?


49 posted on 01/30/2015 7:11:44 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do)
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To: Redbob

Dennis is the little leftist gnome who was a Democrat representative from the Cleveland area.

He has since retired and occasionally bleats like a moderate. (You know, moderates? They stand for nothing.)


50 posted on 01/30/2015 7:38:35 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: grania

” but never guilty of the evil stuff so many of our DC leaders have been lately.”

THAT, I completely agree with! I lived in Brecksville then. Met him when I lived in Sagamore Hills. My band was playing a UAW picnic, and he was there to kiss the union’s butt!


51 posted on 01/30/2015 7:50:35 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Jess Kitting

I didn’t read the article because of that opening sentence. That’s like fingernails on a chalkboard. I may try again later.


52 posted on 01/30/2015 8:05:31 AM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

myopic is another good term - narrowmindness, shortsightedness. would fit just as good as tunnel vision.


53 posted on 01/30/2015 8:30:56 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: grania

The establishment of which Hillary is a puppet, wanted regimes like Libya overturned. Our ever lying media hyped and covered up events that would lead to that outcome. These manipulations are always costing the USA and many other civilians that only want to go on with their lives. The result is we get rogue groups like ISIS that create an even bigger threat that cost more dollars and lives. You can bet those on the receiving end of all those dollars are rarely risking their lives.


54 posted on 01/30/2015 8:41:13 AM PST by apoliticalone (Guns are like a parachute. When you need one and don't have it you'll not ever need another.)
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55 posted on 01/30/2015 8:49:39 AM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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To: apoliticalone
I agree with you 150%.

My only question is: if this explosive data esists, is it enough to get Hillary and Obama a trial at the Hague?

56 posted on 01/30/2015 8:56:24 AM PST by grania
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To: Rennes Templar

I recall a similar ploy being advocated by Saddam Hussein; either going to gold, or changing investments from dollar-based to other than dollar-based.


57 posted on 01/30/2015 9:28:24 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: Redbob

“I gotta ask, is this the same Dennis Kucinich that talks to space aliens?”

I don’t know about Kucinich or him talking to aliens but I do know the media we now have in the USA would have manipulated our beliefs, and would have turned Jesus Christ into a kook of some sort. You can bet on it.

We only know what we are told, and what we are told by the media is never intended to make Americans united, but instead divided. They make America a weaker country so a few corrupt crooks in DC and elsewhere can connive to strip it to the bones for their benefactors.


58 posted on 01/30/2015 10:21:12 AM PST by apoliticalone (Guns are like a parachute. When you need one and don't have it you'll not ever need another.)
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To: HomerBohn

Is Incompetence of Secretary of State now the politically correct tag for SFI SOS?


59 posted on 01/30/2015 2:40:00 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: HomerBohn

The fix is in for Bush ?


60 posted on 01/30/2015 4:56:54 PM PST by Carry me back
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