Reliance on the Virtue of Politicians Cannot Restore our Republic.

[RKBA Democrat]

The state lawmakers are already aware. In some cases they try to do something about it, but most of them are fine with the arrangement.

State lawmakers, while generally better than what we see out of DC, are no paragons of virtue.

[Political Junkie Too]

Sure, but that was back when technology was basic and the people were remote. The internet was the telegraph and the bad guys kept cutting the lines. The world is a much smaller place today.

While I understand that human nature is what it is, I don't think it's fair to assume that the conditions of 1913, and the decade leading up to it, can be used to project what would happen today. Especially because we have the lessons learned from 1913 that they didn't have at the time.

-PJ

[Jacquerie]

“Democracy” sells every time. It did so over a hundred years ago and sells today.

Your points are standard progressive drivel.

Did the 17th Amendment correct the problems it was supposedly designed to correct? No.

Nothing of your post refutes the purpose for which a senate of the states was designed to serve.

[central_va]

FYI: In Virginia, anti Article V convention forces are using false flag operations to get people to call their state reps against Article V. they say Article V will repeal the 2nd amendment and it needs to be stopped. The last call I got started out saying the 2nd amendment is under attack, then she went on about Art V blah blah. I told her "nice try but you are full of BS" and hung up.

Yes, they're scared.

[central_va]

I think the 16th is the biggest stinker but who am I to say.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Hey, you want to start a campaign to explain to the public why they should let their state legislatures appoint senators instead of voting on them themselves, knock yourself out.

[central_va]

wanted to know what good, hard evidence there is that the results between the two different voting methods have critical disparity in representing the state.

Wingnut, how has the republic fared since 1913?

[central_va]

Do you honestly think the founders wanted redundant popularity elected legislative branches?

[RKBA Democrat]

“What is certain now, is the federalism they supported is necessary to save the republic.”

Not really. There was a different form of government that was strangled in its infancy: a loose confederation of states with a central government having very little power. Power corrupts. So why give a central government more than a bare minimum of power in the first place?

[RKBA Democrat]

“how has the republic fared since 1913?”

About the same as it has since 1865.

[central_va]

Everything has gone downhill since 1913. The 16th amendment being a prime driver of the destruction.

[central_va]

Update Aug 2014. I'm reading FR less and posting far less. Nothing against my FRiends, but I just have come to find it too depressing and nonproductive. So I'm focusing my time elsewhere. If you wish to contact me send an frmail and I'll respond eventually. FRegards RD

I guess that you didn't really mean that.

[Jacquerie]

Man, what a shame. While I’ve never lived in VA, I regard VA as the hallowed birthplace of presidents and patriots.

[Jacquerie]

John Locke and James Madison covered that. If men were angels, government wouldn’t be necessary. It is the very imperfections of man that require government to secure natural rights.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

No, but they included a provision for amending the constitution to reflect the popular will.

[central_va]

I think the problem with some of the political retarded that post here is that they associate a republic with weakness. They think the USA would become vulnerable from outside threats if we restored states rights as our founders intended

History shows that a strong republic has been the most powerful form of government-ever. I am not advocating world wide conquests but the Greek Republic conquered the known world up to the Indian border, a huge area and the Roman Republic conquered most of Europe and the middle east.

[Jacquerie]

<>Hey, you want to start a campaign . . . <>

I began my campaign to restore federal republicanism right here at FreeRepublic on April 8th 2013, the 100th anniversary of the 17th Amendment.

[Publius]

There are three sets of people who fear the Amendments Convention process and fear it especially now that the movement is gaining steam.

• The Left. They know that more states are in control of the Right than the Left, and they fear that the "progress" of a century will be undone by hicks, rustics, rednecks and religious fanatics.
• The Uninformed Right. God knows that Schlafly and the Birch Society mean well, but they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
• The Big Government Right. A large number of people on the Right want less liberty and more conformity, especially when it comes to their pet issues. They like the Federal Leviathan when they control it.

This is going to be an uphill struggle until the last quarter of this year when the government will grossly overstep its bounds, baring its fangs against the people, during the Worldwide Sovereign Debt Default Crisis that Martin Armstrong has predicted.

[central_va]

Don’t worry I get pro Article V calls too. One robocall was really good and advocated for Article V convention and then called and transferred my call to my state senators office for me! The Senators office girl took my opinion which I strongly suggested that the Senator should be in favor of it.

[RKBA Democrat]

“Everything has gone downhill since 1913. The 16th amendment being a prime driver of the destruction.”

And it was baked in the cake at Appomatox Court House.

To the victor go the spoils.