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Democrats' 'Blue Wall' Not Impregnable to Republicans -- If They're Smart
Townhall.com ^ | February 17. 2015 | Michael Barone

Posted on 02/17/2015 4:17:04 AM PST by Kaslin

Do Republicans have a realistic chance to win the next presidential election? Some analysts suggest the answer is no. They argue that there is a 240-electoral-vote "blue wall" of 18 states and D.C. that have gone Democratic in the last six presidential elections.

A Democratic nominee needs only 30 more electoral votes to win the presidency, they note accurately. A Republican nominee, they suggest, has little chance of breaking through the blue wall. He (or she) would have to win 270 of the 298 other electoral votes.

Democrats do have an advantage in the electoral vote, because heavily Democratic clusters clinch about 170 electoral votes for them, while Republicans have a lock on only about 105. But the blue wall theory, like all political rules of thumb, is true only till it's not. And this one could easily prove inoperative in a competitive 2016 race.

To see why, go back and put yourself in the shoes of a Democratic strategist following the 2004 presidential race. Assume that a stronger 2008 Democratic nominee will win all of John Kerry's 252 electoral votes (which happened). Then take a look at the states in which Kerry won 43 percent or more of the popular vote.

The four states in which Kerry won 48 percent or more -- Iowa, New Mexico, Ohio, Nevada -- were obvious targets, seriously contested in three or four of the previous four elections. Add Florida (47 percent for Kerry and obviously closely contested) and you have 318 electoral votes easily accessible in a good Democratic year.

What states should you target beyond that? It depends on who your nominee is. If it's Hillary Clinton, you might look at Missouri, Arkansas, Arizona, Tennessee and West Virginia. Bill Clinton won Arizona once and the other four twice, and Hillary Clinton won all but Missouri in the 2008 primaries. These states' 43 electoral votes raise the potential win to 361.

If your nominee is Barack Obama, your targets are different. You might look at Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina, plus Missouri. All but Colorado have large minority populations, and all but Missouri have large blocs of upscale whites -- groups among which Obama demonstrated strong appeal in 2008 primaries.

These states had 48 electoral votes in 2008. Obama won all but Missouri's 11 and made up for that by winning 11 in Indiana, a 39 percent Kerry state.

The lesson here is that in a favorable opinion climate, a party can successfully target previously unwinnable states containing voting blocs that can be moved or just mobilized. It helps greatly if, like Obama, they increase their turnout in primaries.

Likewise, a Republican strategist looking ahead to 2016 has 12 states where Mitt Romney won 43 to 49 percent of the vote in 2012. Add some significant share of their 146 electoral votes to the 206 Romney won, and you get well above the 270 majority.

At the top of the list are perennial targets Florida and Ohio. Just below, at 47 percent in favor of Romney, are Virginia and -- part of the supposedly immoveable blue wall -- Pennsylvania. Republicans nearly beat a popular Democratic senator in Virginia last year and have been making steady gains in blue-collar Western Pennsylvania. Those four states added to Romney's would give Republicans 286 electoral votes -- George W. Bush's winning total in 2004.

What states could Republicans target beyond that? A nominee with Midwestern appeal might go after Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota (42 electoral votes). One with Hispanic appeal could target Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico (20 electoral votes). One with appeal to upscale whites could target Colorado, New Hampshire and Minnesota (23 electoral votes). One with working-class appeal might choose Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan (32 electoral votes).

Critics might ask whether a 2016 Republican nominee can count on all the Romney states. Certainly not, if the party is as unpopular as it was in 2008. And North Carolina, a 48 percent Obama state, certainly looks like a realistic Democratic target in a close race.

But Obama got no more than 45 percent in other Romney states. Of the six where he got 44 or 45 percent, Democrats have had little success lately, even when running candidates better adapted to the local terrain than Hillary Clinton would be. None looks like a good Democratic target.

Republicans looking to 2016 can learn from Democrats' 2008 success. Target wisely, and think of states you haven't carried in years. And use the primaries to expand potentially favorable blocs.


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To: sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

” And now the Muzzies love us “

And they will love us even more, after they kill enough us.


81 posted on 02/17/2015 9:44:25 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; stephenjohnbanker; AuH2ORepublican

I wish you had a bit more passion when you post......

lol


82 posted on 02/17/2015 9:46:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

My Tourette’s is quite active today.


83 posted on 02/17/2015 9:52:05 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

At least you are breathing. No evidence the GOP is : )


84 posted on 02/17/2015 10:03:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

OUCH!!!


85 posted on 02/17/2015 10:08:26 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Kaslin
Democrats' 'Blue Wall' Not Impregnable to Republicans -- If They're Smart

He just had to include that "if they're smart" qualifier, didn't he?

86 posted on 02/17/2015 10:09:17 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

People don’t realize how close Reagan was to taking all 50 states. Switch about 1800 Minnesota votes from Democrat to Republican then Reagan would have taken all it as well.


87 posted on 02/17/2015 10:13:16 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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RE :”At least you are breathing. No evidence the GOP is : )”

I think the final straw was broken, now we will see the ferociously raging Boehner beat Obama mercilessly.

John Boehner Mad Enough At Democrat Obstruction To Say A Cuss ( by Gary Legum Feb 11, 2015)


88 posted on 02/17/2015 10:15:21 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

The time to stop Obama was pre-Cromubus. Obama has papered up 5+ million illegals now. These illegals will be paid cash money to vote in the next election. Many will vote several times. Anything Boner/McTurtle do now is too late, and 100% phony. May both of these traitorous SOB’s rot in hell!


89 posted on 02/17/2015 10:22:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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RE :”Obama has papered up 5+ million illegals now. These illegals will be paid cash money to vote in the next election.”

What if the GOPe pays them even more to vote GOPe?

They got lots of $$$$...look at Romney..

90 posted on 02/17/2015 10:24:42 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

I wouldn’t put anything past the GOP : )

Then the illegals can dip from both ends. Justice is served.


91 posted on 02/17/2015 10:27:09 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Don’t get excited... Boehner was yawning in that picture.

That ain’t rage; that’s hangover.


92 posted on 02/17/2015 10:28:52 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Once Obama reaches 10 million illegals who have been papered up, he can move them around the country, so the Democrats win almost every election.


93 posted on 02/17/2015 10:34:20 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz
RE :”Once Obama reaches 10 million illegals who have been papered up, he can move them around the country, so the Democrats win almost every election.”

But Rubio said they are natural conservatives


94 posted on 02/17/2015 11:22:56 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

Rubio L I E S.


97 posted on 02/17/2015 11:47:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: sickoflibs
Rubio said latinos are natural conservatives....

Why Rubio and (sad to say Cruz) can't get traction.....ethnic solidarity ends up as them against us.

And the nauseating spectre of "creeping latinosim."

"Only here for a better life" segued to just gimme a driver's license, to demanding a panoply of giveaways and gimmees, changes in our laws, etc.....and the 24/7 sucking off the backs of struggling taxpayers.

98 posted on 02/17/2015 12:05:28 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
RE:”Only here for a better life” segued to just gimme a driver's license, to demanding a panoply of giveaways and gimmees, changes in our laws, etc.....and the 24/7 sucking off the backs of struggling taxpayers. “

Is that an act of LOVE?

99 posted on 02/17/2015 12:24:06 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

Neither are the “only electable” candidates the gope keeps trotting out. We haven’t ran a Cruz type candidate since 1984 so how do you know what you are saying is true? The evidence would indicate otherwise.


100 posted on 02/17/2015 12:32:11 PM PST by sarge83
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