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Greece demands 279bn(Euros) from Germany in Nazi War Reparations
UK Telegraph ^ | 4-7-2015 | Mehreen Khan

Posted on 04/07/2015 10:20:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Greece has demanded nearly €279bn in reparations from Germany, more than the value of its current bail-out, as the cash-strapped country continues to pursue compensation for crimes carried out by the Third Reich.

A parliamentary committee established by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras put an official number on the claim, which includes the cost of a forced Nazi loan made by the Bank of Greece and the return of archaeological treasures.

Greece suffered a brutal occupation at the hands of the Third Reich in 1941, with over 40,000 people starving to death in Athens alone.

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Berlin moved to quickly to reject the fresh claims. Vice chancellor Sigmar Gabriel described the proposal as "dumb" and said it risked conflating Greece's current debt problems with historical grievances.

“If you bring two areas that have nothing to do with one another, both heavily burdened issues politically, into a single context, then you make it damned easy for those from whom you want something simply to exit the debate and say ‘you can’t do that’,” said Mr Gabriel.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: tcrlaf

The Greeks should next hit the Iranians (Persians) up for the damage Xerxes did.


21 posted on 04/07/2015 10:39:51 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: dfwgator

Kept us from fighting them again and from them joining with the Soviets to swallow Europe.

The answer is we still pay today. Who do you think pays for all the military protection of Europe?


22 posted on 04/07/2015 11:01:00 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: dfwgator

About 1.5 billion USD 1950; would guess around 10x inflation since then so about 11.5 billion.

The 115M DM they paid Greece in 1960 was a joke in comparison. But the dominant theory of the time was that high reparations would only open up old wounds.

Maybe modern Germans don’t feel responsible for the war and its damage. I know many who feel that way - “we weren’t here!”. But their modern success is due in no small part to the enlightened attitude of the Americans who used to run the United States - and who not only stopped German aggression but reconstructed Europe afterwards and shaped what would become the European Economic Community.

The Germans may laugh at Greece and point out that their problems are self made, but considering what happened, it ain’t so funny.

And I could make the same comment about the former Soviet Union and what THEY did to Eastern Europe, but about the only thing they have to give is oil and gas. And they don’t think they did anything bad in Eastern Europe....


23 posted on 04/07/2015 11:04:57 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: longtermmemmory

“in this country a bond dealer would go to jail.”

Not if said dealer is one of Holder’s people.


24 posted on 04/07/2015 11:05:36 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

And the Persians could make a claim against the Greeks for Alexander.


25 posted on 04/07/2015 11:09:32 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Jim from C-Town

those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

What happens when this is China demanding the USA pay?


26 posted on 04/07/2015 11:09:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: aquila48

And the Greeks could demand payment for 400 years of slavery by the ottomans.

The REAL bottom line here is the fact the Euro currency experiment is falling apart and the major investors don’t know how to pull out their own money.


27 posted on 04/07/2015 11:11:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: aquila48
Yes. But when you boil it down, It is all Bush's Fault!
28 posted on 04/07/2015 11:11:41 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: tcrlaf

I doubt very much that this goes anywhere, but if it did watch for the race pimps ramp up the slavery reparation demands.


29 posted on 04/07/2015 11:13:22 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: tcrlaf

Greece was occupied for 400 years by the Ottomans. Try getting reparations from Turkey.


30 posted on 04/07/2015 11:15:50 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

You know, Sparta still owes reparations from the Peloponnesian War


31 posted on 04/07/2015 11:16:38 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: aquila48

The Greek retirement age is 50, the German retirement age is 67. Nuff said.


32 posted on 04/07/2015 11:16:50 AM PDT by laconic
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To: tcrlaf

How about the UK ,they’re the ones that drove these Commie Greeks out at the end of WWII, LOL


33 posted on 04/07/2015 11:32:02 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: tcrlaf

There are apparently plans by the IMF to extend Greece’s loan terms and facilitate new lending in return for more promises of reform, with Greek exit from the euro possible. From the standpoint of the IMF, Greece is now at a familiar stage of financial crisis in which the populist side of a national political equation is forced to admit that they do not have a solution to their country’s systemic financial problems. In the meanwhile, Greece’s Leftist politicians will pretend that publicly chiding Germany for another round of reparations is a useful exercise.


34 posted on 04/07/2015 11:50:24 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Red Badger

Exactly. Pay the Greeks in Reichmarks with some swastikas on them.


35 posted on 04/07/2015 11:51:03 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: tcrlaf

If Germany pays Greece, then other countries will get in line behind greece and the EU will spectacualarly collapse...


36 posted on 04/07/2015 12:42:46 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Regulator
Germany was given a second chance by the U.S. and Britain and no reparations were exacted because of Versailles and its role in starting the second war.

But their modern success is due in no small part to the enlightened attitude of the Americans who used to run the United States - and who not only stopped German aggression but reconstructed Europe afterwards and shaped what would become the European Economic Community.


You should read up on your 20th century history. Of course there were reparations after the war. Especially the French and the Russians literally took everything they could get their hands on, from machines to whole factories. The patents and intellectual property Germany lost to the United States were worth ten times what Germany got in Marshall Fund money.

Also - other than e.g. the UK - Germany got that money as a loan, which it repaid. The idea that the US rebuilt Germany is a nice fairy tale. That doesn't mean that Germany didn't get something very, very valuable: Access to western markets and economic cooperation. That's the genius of the Marshall plan: Trade is good for peace (-> interdependence / prosperity).
37 posted on 04/07/2015 12:50:35 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78

Thanks for the Odessa version of post-War Deutschland.

Not in need of any books about the subject. Both before and after the war my family was there in US State department roles. Heard the real story from them, Wolfie.


38 posted on 04/07/2015 1:08:09 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: dfwgator
If Greece gets $300 Billion Dollars , imagine what Poland could get.

Maybe Silesia and Pomerania and everything in it? 100.000 square miles of arable land's gotta be worth something (if you do the the math: far more than 300 lousy billion dollars).

Ah, wait, Poland already got that.

And that's the thing with cans of worms.....
39 posted on 04/07/2015 1:17:22 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78
Maybe Silesia and Pomerania and everything in it? 100.000 square miles of arable land's gotta be worth something (if you do the the math: far more than 300 lousy billion dollars). Ah, wait, Poland already got that.

Which was less in size than the land that the Soviets stole from Poland.

40 posted on 04/07/2015 1:25:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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