Posted on 04/09/2015 1:18:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
FULL TITLE: Rev. Cruz: If Gay Marriage is Civil Right, Govt Will Force Pastors to Obey Unjust Law or Obey God and Face Prison
If gay marriage is legally viewed as a civil rights issue, as may happen with the Supreme Courts ruling on the subject in June, then it becomes a broader religious liberty concern, not just a marriage issue, said Reverend Rafael Cruz, adding that then pastors will have to choose between obeying an unjust law and obeying God and potentially going to prison.
Pastor Cruz, who is the father of Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), made his remarks during an interview with conservative leader Phyllis Schlafly on her radio program Eagle Forum Live.
We need to realize that the attack on marriage is more than just an attack on marriage, it actually goes to the heart of religious freedom, said Pastor Cruz.
Because, you see, what is going to come next -- and this is part of the danger of what may happen out of the Supreme Court in June -- is that if marriage of anybody-with-anybody becomes a civil rights issue, he said, then they are going to come to churches and force pastors to violate their religious convictions.
And so it is going to come to America to where a pastor is going to be faced with a decision: Do you obey a law that is not only unjust but violates your core principles, or do you obey God and face prison? said Pastor Cruz.
This is the dilemma that Americas pastors are going to be facing, if this issue is labeled a civil rights issue, he said. It goes way beyond marriage to actually violate the religious freedom of people of faith.
In June, the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule on whether state bans on homosexual marriage are constitutional. Currently, same-sex marriage is legal in 37 states and illegal in 13 states.
Rev. Rafael Cruz fought against the Communists in Cuba, was arrested there and tortured. He fled the island in 1957 at age 18. He eventually settled in Texas and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2005. His Dallas-based church also operates Christian ministries in Mexico and Central America. His wife, Eleanor Wilson Cruz, was born in Wilmington, Del.
I think that you’re whistling past the graveyard of the Constitution.
Of course not. But my point is, even if it declared a “civil right,” pastors are not (and have never been) obligated to perform every marriage that is permissible as a “civil right.”
When he was fighting,m I don't think there were any known communists involved, Cruz was on the side of Castro, and was jailed and tortured by Batista.
Jesus already told us how to make this choice. "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's." The very few things that are Caesar's include tax dollars. The things that are God's include just about everything else, including our absolute loyalty and obedience.
Prison is the only acceptable answer if those are the choices. Fortunately, the Bill of Rights gives us the power to select a third option if FedGov attempts to violate the First Amendment.
He fought against Batista.
Socialists = Walking Pigs.
The primary moral of Orwell’s husbandry.
And he sees the same thing starting to happen here.
No wonder the anti-Christ Oboma is in love with Cuba (water seeks it's own level).
Agreed. I don’t believe a clergy can be forced to marry ANYONE. Some clergy have standards the couple must meet, whether that is months of counseling or personality tests, or even his feeling that this is a good Union. Orthodox Jewish rabbis will not marry to someone not Jewish by birth or orthodox conversion.
Gays will find clergy to marry them. (I don’t know about Islam though)
This is a stupid tyrannical quest if it gets started.
I have a lawyer friend that is very much against gay marriage. And as hard as it is to see some churches allow gay marriage, he has said the same thing.
“Whether our church decides or not, the day is soon coming when all churches will need to perform gay weddings by law.”
From a related thread
More specifically, while Christians are complaining that their 1st Amendment protections are being trampled on, theyre not pointing out that Section 1 of 14th Amendment prohibits the states as well from abridging their constitutionally enumerated protections.
14th Amendment, Section 1:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Note that the privileges or immunities term which John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, used in that section is just another way to refer to constitutionally enumerated rights, most of these well-known rights, including 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression, listed in the Bill of Rights.
In fact, the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect LGBT issues. So citizens who value their freedom of religious expression need to learn to argue the following. Pro-gay activist states are unthinkingly using equal protections policies to bully Christians in the name of protecting constitutionally unprotected gay rights.
There is no contentment for these people. They are driven by internal Demons and it is impossible to assuage their thirst for more affirmation. They must constantly be assured that they are "normal" because they so desperately want affirmation. They don't want to be regarded as "sick".
By their second party platform, 1974, right after Wade v Roe, libertarians were already pushing for full term abortion, in 1972 they had written in a 100 day period, which they dropped in the 1974 platform.
[Stop trying to incite paranoia. This is still America. People are not forced to do anything they dont want here in this great country.]
It doesn’t look like Traditional-Values Christians are going to get much help from the GOP. Only six of 54 Republican members of the U.S. Senate signed a pro-traditional marriage legal brief to the U.S. Supreme Court that was submitted on Friday, April 3. TED CRUZ was one of the five.
http://illinoisfamily.org/federal/republican-party-elites-abandon-traditional-marriage/
TED CRUZ - NOT AFRAID TO STAND FOR MARRIAGE - 2016
http://www.tedcruz.org/
After they punish people for refusing to arrange flowers or bake a cake for a "gay" wedding, you don't think they will force people to perform same sex "marriage"?
And what makes you believe the coercive power of leftist judges won't go so far?
The whole point and goal all along is the criminalization of Christian belief.
And there it is. I shan't be surprised to see a Christian Kristallnacht coming in the not so distant future. They are already laying the ground work for it.
its already happening in Canada
I told a friend so over thirty years ago. About eight years ago he told me that he used to think all that stuff I told him was just over the top nonsense, but now he realizes I was right all along.
Ted best prepare his dad for the rabid liberal stalkers.
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