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65-Year-Old Mom Pregnant With Quadruplets: Amazingly Beautiful Or Extremely Egotistical?
PJ Media ^ | 04-12-2015 | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 04/12/2015 8:03:17 AM PDT by Michael van der Galien

A 65 year old German lady has told German newspaper Bild that she’s expecting quadruplets. This news story is the talk of the day in Europe. There are those who believe it’s a reason to celebrate, while others have a slightly different opinion. See for instance this tweet from a Dutch Twitter-user:

Translation:

“A women of 65 years old pregnant with quadruplets. This is loathsome. Incredibly egotistical.”

Her argument is that the mother is a) too old to take care of one new baby let alone four, and b) that she’s basically nearing the end of her life thereby making it very likely that her children will lose their mother at a very young age.

As far as I’m concerned, this is nothing to be ashamed of, let alone to find “loathsome.” People are healthier than ever before and become older because of it. If this German lady wants to have seventeen kids, why shouldn’t she? She could live on for another 30 or even 40 years. Should she, then, be deprived of family bliss just because some folks consider her to be “too old?” What nonsense.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; ivf; moralabsolutes; news; parenting; science
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1 posted on 04/12/2015 8:03:17 AM PDT by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

Technically, they are not her children. They are someone else’s children that she has had implanted into her uterus.

Pregnancy for an older woman is quite risky. Not to mention the fact that life expectancy is around 77 years or so, meaning that it is highly unlikely that she will see those children reach adulthood. Is there some arrangement for the children’s biological mother to step in and assume their care at that point?


2 posted on 04/12/2015 8:07:07 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Michael van der Galien

She is egotistical. She could not have conceived them on her own. And she could have ‘family’ in many other ways.


3 posted on 04/12/2015 8:10:17 AM PDT by goodnesswins (I think we've reached PEAK TYRANNY now.....)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Wow! & here I am in early 40’s thinking it’s too late for us..
Trying for our 1st.
But 65??? I can’t even imagine..


4 posted on 04/12/2015 8:12:27 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: rainee

I was 58 when my youngest son was born. He is in college now and I am 77. We are both very healthy and happy.


5 posted on 04/12/2015 8:16:57 AM PDT by Will we know the moment (e are no longer a republi)
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To: Michael van der Galien
Without doubt this was an instance of artificial reproduction. Therefore all the arguments against IVF apply here, especially (not only) the fact that the process usually produces "leftover" embryos who are frozen, stored, experimented upon without consent, trafficked in commercial reproductive schemes, or destroyed.

The article doesn't have all the relevant information, but it looks like --- because they weren't mentioned --- the babies' father(s) and genetic mother(s) are also out of the picture.

God bless the children --- they themselves are as precious as any children conceived anyway anyhow --- but this deliberately freakish reproductive stunt was a morally objectionable thing to do. Every child a natural right to be begotten, borne and raised by his or her natural, married mother and father.

A right? Yes, because they have the need; and we are responsible for this when we bring them into existence.

6 posted on 04/12/2015 8:21:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." - Billie Holiday)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Don’t know why lefties are complaining. There’s gotta be a new generation of young people to pay for the welfare state.


7 posted on 04/12/2015 8:22:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Will we know the moment

Thank you for your story, that’s amazing! Gives me hope it will happen soon for us...


8 posted on 04/12/2015 8:25:02 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Michael van der Galien

My great grandmother had her last at 49. My grandmother had my dad at 50. Here is the difference: both ladies conceived naturally and were not post menopausal. IMHO.. denying natural biology (defined as the bodies ability to conceive i.e. pre-menopausal) is healthier for both Mother and child. I couldn’t find in the article if this woman had other children. If not.. why in the world did she wait so long? It sort of reminds me of something I learned long ago in a philosophy class: the phone rings. You have two choices: answer it or don’t. However, if you spend a LONG time thinking about which one.. the phone will stop ringing; thus, you made a choice wether you realized it or not.


9 posted on 04/12/2015 8:27:09 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Every child a natural right to be begotten, borne and raised by his or her natural, married mother and father.

**Well, I was adopted so the choice about being raised by natural mother/father not mine. But what little I do know about my biological parents is they were still in high school and abortion wasn’t an option. So here I am! Raised by amazing parents, family and they’ve never treated me any different other than their biological child.


10 posted on 04/12/2015 8:35:39 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Long before it is “egotistical”, it is an unnatural, disordered procedure; contrary to nature and intrinsically evil. End of discussion.


11 posted on 04/12/2015 8:35:42 AM PDT by Agent 37 (All your base shall belong to us.)
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To: Will we know the moment

Wow! I can’t imagine that. I had no children of my own and took on four at age 46. I now have grandchildren and am amazed at how much work kids are. Not sure I could handle it at my age!


12 posted on 04/12/2015 8:39:02 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

When it comes to later-in-life pregnancies, I admit I’m biased.

My parents were in their forties when I was born. I was 34 when I lost my father, and 39 when I lost my mother. All I can say is that I wish I’d had more time with them.


13 posted on 04/12/2015 8:43:45 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: Michael van der Galien

Natural conception would be beautiful (and truly a gift from God).

Medical conception is pure ego because of the woman’s age.


14 posted on 04/12/2015 8:44:24 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: exDemMom

Well she is expecting the State to step in and support her and those children, because somehow I doubt she is independently wealthy or has a full time high paying job to step into. So I am going to go with amazingly extremely egotistical or one full bubble off plumb.


15 posted on 04/12/2015 8:45:41 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: exDemMom

I think it’s wrong. But on the other hand, maybe she had her own children who refused to have children of their own (a common situation in Europe), or grandchildren for some reason could not come in the normal way. So I guess she decided to have her own.

Somebody else may have to bring them up, but at the age of 65, barring accident, she’ll probably live to see them grow up.

It’s wrong and I don’t think it should be happening...but so many things are wrong now that this almost seems like a positive thing, because at least she’s encouraging life.


16 posted on 04/12/2015 8:49:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: CatherineofAragon; Mrs. Don-o
When it comes to later-in-life pregnancies, I admit I’m biased.

So am I. I was 45 when Kathleen was born (by the boring old natural process, nothing "miraculous," like a celebrity's children).

Is someone going to declare a duty to prevent natural conception because of age? If so, what age is it, and who decides, and how is it enforced?

17 posted on 04/12/2015 8:55:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: Tax-chick

Not quite sure where you infer that I want to enforce a rule against late pregnancies.

I was voicing a personal opinion, not intending to insult personally.

I DO wish I’d had more time with my parents. To say otherwise would be a lie. Things may turn out quite differently for you and your family.


18 posted on 04/12/2015 9:00:12 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: goodnesswins
She is egotistical. She could not have conceived them on her own. And she could have ‘family’ in many other ways.

Does she remind anyone of whack job woman in America that had a bunch of invitro kids and is living off the taxpayers?

19 posted on 04/12/2015 9:01:39 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tax-chick

I have a sister who is my daughter’s age. She was a true blessing for my mother especially when my father died in his 50s. My sister has enriched our whole family and now her daughter is effectively my only grandchild.

Also, my sister is extremely smart so being born to a somewhat older mother didn’t hamper her one iota.


20 posted on 04/12/2015 9:04:55 AM PDT by Aria
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