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Jeb Bush: Wouldn't have changed anything in Schiavo case
Politico ^ | 04/17/2015 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 04/17/2015 10:04:29 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: thackney; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins; ...
But Governors do not have the authority to ignore court rulings.

Nonsense, they do it all the time. Governors DO have the authority to provide the support necessary to enforce Congressional subpoenas.

Governors DO have the authority to call out the state militia to enforce the peace.

Governors DO have the authority to call out the state militia to execute state law (Terri's law).

Probate judges (for that matter all judges) DO NOT have the authority to sentence a person to death without an indictment and trial by a jury of their peers.

41 posted on 04/17/2015 12:16:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: thackney

Sometimes “The law is an ass”

Said of the application of the law that is contrary to common sense.

Origin

This proverbial expression is of English origin and the ass being referred to here is the English colloquial name for a donkey, not the American ‘ass’, which we will leave behind us at this point. Donkeys have a, somewhat unjustified, reputation for obstinate and stupidity that has given us the adjective ‘asinine’.


42 posted on 04/17/2015 12:18:28 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Theodore R.

I know...Was being sarcastic;)


43 posted on 04/17/2015 12:21:55 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: GIdget2004
“So she starved to death,” he went on, turning somber.

She didn't just "starve to death", Jeb. She was starved AND dehydrated to death by sinister people with a pro-euthanasia agenda. Her husband also didn't want her around anymore. She was murdered. You could have done more.
You should have done more.

And how long did you remain "somber"? Probably 30 seconds tops.
44 posted on 04/17/2015 12:26:27 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: wagglebee

Terri’s Law, was ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court.

I’m not going to be a Jeb defender/promoter so I will drop the subject. I think there were far greater villains in this case and Jeb tried to be on the right side. My 2¢, worth nothing more.


45 posted on 04/17/2015 2:24:20 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Thank you. We're either a Nation of Laws, or we aren't.

I'm sorry she died. But to blame that on Jeb Bush is ludicrous.

46 posted on 04/17/2015 2:29:46 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: thackney
But Governors do not have the authority to ignore court rulings. Nor do we want the to have that power.

Of course they do, when said courts defy the state or federal constitutions. Not only do they have the authority, they have the sworn duty.

And make no mistake, the murder of Terri Schiavo violated the explicit equal protection requirements of the U.S. and the Florida constitutions, in the worst possible way.

47 posted on 04/17/2015 3:38:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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Thank you. We're either a Nation of Laws, or we aren't.

I take it you have never read the U.S. Constitution or the Florida constitution, both of which explicitly and imperatively REQUIRE equal protection for the right to life of every single individual person.

Jeb Bush swore a sacred oath to support and defend both of those constitutions. He did NOT swear an oath to obey some tinpot probate judge when that judge decides to order the torture murder of an innocent woman.

48 posted on 04/17/2015 3:41:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EternalVigilance
And I take it you would be just fine if a politician named Clinton or Obama defied a court order to follow his/her own conscience on what was constitutional?
49 posted on 04/17/2015 3:46:08 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski

There is no moral equivalency between defying a judge who is crushing the constitution and ordering the torture murder of an innocent person and some leftist making it up as they go along.

The protection of the God-given, unalienable, individual right to life is the very raison d’etre of all human governments. There’s no gray area here.


50 posted on 04/17/2015 4:02:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EternalVigilance
Fantastic post!
51 posted on 04/17/2015 5:12:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Jerk needs to go back to screwing up the education system instead. He’s just annoying and proves once again that he’s a killer.


52 posted on 04/17/2015 6:35:58 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))
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To: wagglebee

Yep, Jeb Bush will never ever ever get my vote. I will sit out before I vote for him.


53 posted on 04/17/2015 6:37:12 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: chris37

She felt it. Ask her brother, Bobby. I believe him.


54 posted on 04/17/2015 6:38:18 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: thackney

I was there for the history. I don’t give one damn about articles. People lie in articles all the time.

The history really was that Jeb backed down in the face of adversity, when the chips were down. He got nervous. He worried about his political future. He completely forgot about right vs wrong.

He can say what he wants, what eases his conscience. The fact of the matter is that an innocent handicapped woman was tortured to death under his watch, and anyone who tried to actually give her relief from her suffering was either arrested for doing the right thing, or threatened with arrest.

I’m still pretty mad about it.


55 posted on 04/17/2015 6:54:42 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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I believe she did too.

We don’t know what certain states of the brain leave functioning and not functioning.

I’m not willing to make the assumption that oh someone is in a coma, they don’t feel or know anything, or in a vegetative state and they don’t feel or know anything or comprehend anything that’s going on around them or happening to them.

Furthermore, if there is a time when euthanasia is called for, with dogs at the end of their time with us for example, then the method of killing needs to be quick, as it is with dogs. It’s hard enough to put dogs down even knowing they go out almost immediately. Imagine having to euthanize your dog by depriving it of water until it does from dehydration...

If we do not treat our dogs this way, why on earth would we treat people this way? I cannot understand it, and I won’t understand it.

(Just want to say that I don’t think terry Schiavo should have been killed at all, I was just using the example of dogs to illustrate that I cannot understand what was done to her in any way, shape or form.)


56 posted on 04/17/2015 6:55:59 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37

I’m good with your response.


57 posted on 04/17/2015 6:58:32 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: floriduh voter

Ditto.


58 posted on 04/17/2015 6:59:29 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: floriduh voter

Jebbie for President is the ultimate “gift” of Ronald Reagan, who made all of the Bushes possible, along with Sandra Day O’Connor.


59 posted on 04/17/2015 10:07:55 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


60 posted on 04/18/2015 7:43:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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