Posted on 04/19/2015 5:23:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
You use the ‘only’ like a bludgeon. But you missed me, tool.
I don’t have time to address each of your posts right now.
Cronos, Caww, you both have made good contribution to the discussion.
Cronos, I appreciate your perspective on the Middle East, and I’m not locked in disagreement on most of your thoughts.
This all began (at least I believe it was), when we were discussing top government officials including the King having inside knowledge of the funding and plans to carry out 09/11.
I still don’t believe he knew he was funding this operation or had knowledge or input on this specific incident.
I’m willing to listen to what you have to say and agree where I can. On this one issue, I can’t.
With upwards of 20,000 Saudis in our nation on 09/11, it seem preposterous to me that the top government of Saudi Arabia would approve of a plan that would only anger, rather than bring the nation totally to it’s knees.
There’s just no upside to 09/11 for them, and it would open them up to massive blow-back.
Thanks for all your input on these matters. I have read a lot to consider from you. Thanks.
It is an interesting thread.....but it does take time, and interest to read the details. I found Cronos information about the Sauds quite interesting historically and how he sees the relationships with other tribes etc.... but as with others do not think the Saudi top leadership was involved with 9/11.
In my humble opinion, DO, a good analogy is what happened in Spain from the 9th century to the 13th — the Ummayads got soft (they still persecuted Christians and Jews, but were lazy about it) and were replaced by the fanatical Almoravids. Then, 4 generations later, the Almoravids were also lax in killing Jews and Christians and were replaced by the Almohads. These last were the most virulent and they initially won many battles against the Spainish reconquista before becoming so vile that they lost in the 1300s to Castile and Leon
Thanks Caww.
I believe I get your point. You may be on track on that.
From a British General : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11140860/Qatar-and-Saudi-Arabia-have-ignited-time-bomb-by-funding-global-spread-of-radical-Islam.html
Another more interesting one: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11196192/Must-we-dance-to-Saudi-tune-over-Muslim-Brotherhood.html
And that’s what the Saud-Wahanbis wanted all along. And they now have money from the USA for it
This article is a bit long but well worth reading. It has names, dates, well researched and credible. Sheds much light including on saudi royal family & officials & their ties to AQ & OBL
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108
Cronos...what’s your take now on the Saudi shakeup of their leadership ????? I admit I’m a bit perplexed???? I mean these were high officials they’re taking out and replacing!
All Christians on FR should read your link....
...”He believes that Isis might have murdered the hostages in order to provoke a military response from America and Britain which could then be ‘portrayed as a Christian assault on Islam’.... “What possible advantage is there to Isil of bringing us into this campaign?” asked Gen Shaw. “Answer: ....’to unite the Muslim world against the Christian world.’ ......We played into their hands. We’ve done what they wanted us to do.”
...” that’s what the Saud-Wahanbis wanted all along. And they now have money from the USA for it”.....
Can hardly believe International leaders are so stupid when it comes to understanding the Sauds and Muslim world in general. Do any of them have a clue really what is going on or are they simply reacting to the plays being made and walking right into their traps!!!!
You know it’s one thing to conduct International Dialog among nation Leaders.....it’s another to even attempt so with Islamic nations who operate with an evil power behind them they cannot understand nor control.
Pls see links in 307, 308 & 310 re our previous discussion in this thread.
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