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Desalination plants aren't a good solution for California drought
LA Times ^ | April 25, 2015 | Michael Hiltzik

Posted on 04/25/2015 7:34:42 AM PDT by Mean Daddy

As surely as the hot, dry Santa Ana winds bring blue skies to the coast and wildfires to the hills, severe California droughts bring calls to build desalination plants up and down the seashore.

All that ocean water, begging to be converted to fresh and pumped into our pipelines, would solve our water supply problems instantly and permanently, boosters say. In the coming months, the drumbeat will only get louder.

That's not only because the current drought is the longest and most severe in memory, but because a $1-billion desalination project scheduled to start operating in Carlsbad this fall will be attracting lots of attention. The plant, the largest of its kind in the U.S., is designed to provide San Diego County with about 50 million desalinated gallons a day, about 7% of its water needs.

"A lot of people are watching what's going to happen in Carlsbad," says Peter MacLaggan, the executive overseeing the project for its developer, privately held Poseidon Water. "They're going to base their future decisions on the success of this project."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Nevada; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: california; communist; desalination; desalinationplants; drought; hiltzik; latimes; michaelhiltzik; water
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To: Don Corleone

Cargill should buy a plant, sell the fresh water to Silicon Valley and use the effluent to make salt. I bet it would be the equivalent of the concentration levels from the 51,100 acres of salt ponds they lost to the EPA...


21 posted on 04/25/2015 8:03:32 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Mean Daddy
Literally Millions of Californians live in what used to be a desert. The only reason it is not now a desert is because the aqueduct system brings millions of gallons of water into that valley from somewhere else. Either more water needs brought in or lots of people need to leave the valley. There is no other alternative.

Desalination is something that will help. That is why the left is against it.

22 posted on 04/25/2015 8:05:32 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yup. They attack this as too costly but have no problem with public transit that is more expensive than most any other option.

If the LA Times is against it then it must work.


23 posted on 04/25/2015 8:05:49 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Mean Daddy

One of the progressives favorite words is “sustainability”.

The current population is not sustainable in a desert state like California. Perhaps we should send a few million back to Mexico?


24 posted on 04/25/2015 8:10:42 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: EQAndyBuzz

So why not just salt water aqueduct to the desalination plants located a mile or whatever inshore. Minimal view spoilage.


25 posted on 04/25/2015 8:11:25 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Paladin2

Liberals can’t be concerned about 10 years solutions but push solutions for global warming effects that even they claim are 100 years in future.


26 posted on 04/25/2015 8:13:29 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: george76

They’re still after the Klamath farmers? Thought American Rivers and Nature Conservancy had bought up the place to sell some to the gov to recoup costs and the rest to members to hobby farm.


27 posted on 04/25/2015 8:25:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: nclaurel; Paladin2

Liberals can’t be concerned about 10 years solutions but push solutions for global warming effects that even they claim are 100 years in future.


Bingo!

Israel’s plants, that they invested in YEARS ago, are now beginning to produce precious water.


28 posted on 04/25/2015 8:27:51 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Mean Daddy

If they don’t want water from the Pacific, build a pipeline from Lake Superior.


29 posted on 04/25/2015 8:28:13 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mean Daddy

All I know is I don’t want the fruits and nuts moving east when they run out of water. We don’t want them here.


30 posted on 04/25/2015 8:28:46 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Mean Daddy

Deporting the millions of illegals who use water would solve the other half of the problem.


31 posted on 04/25/2015 8:30:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: nclaurel

Libs cannot think straight. You are so right. This same lib that sees all the things wrong with desalination, has undoubtedly written favorably about the 7 billion dollar high-speed train to nowhere that California is building.

I wonder, which project is more important to their lifestyle? I guess it depends on whether you are of the ruling class or not.

Oldplayer


32 posted on 04/25/2015 8:31:09 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Mean Daddy

The writer is a liberal idiot. The real solution is cheap 4th generation nuclear plants combined with desalinization. Just won’t happen in California.


33 posted on 04/25/2015 8:36:54 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: PAR35

A pipeline would kill millions of spotted darter snails.


34 posted on 04/25/2015 8:47:39 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Paladin2
the water won’t be available for 10 years so it’s obviously better not to do it.....

Must not be any clear way to divert any of the money to major Democrat contributors, unlike the high-speed rail plan which would take just as long.

35 posted on 04/25/2015 8:52:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Mean Daddy

The Left doesn’t quite have a policy or slogans on desalinization yet - but you can see it being formed.

The answer will be “No” and “it won’t solve anything.”


36 posted on 04/25/2015 8:53:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mean Daddy

He is referencing older technology. Reverse osmosis does indeed consume a lot of energy. However there is a newer technology using nanotube filters, which will only pass through water and molecules smaller than water. It uses about 1/3rd the energy of reverse osmosis, is scalable, and is low maintenance.

As such, instead of a giant desalination plant, they could have dozens of much smaller plants producing far more potable water.


37 posted on 04/25/2015 8:56:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: oldbrowser

“And besides, If more water is available it will just attract more people to California. “

Actually, what has happened is that more water being made available has opened up more acreage to farming. While there is no question that the population has doubled here since any new water storage facilities have been built, it’s agriculture that’s the gorilla in the room. No farming, plenty of water for people. Big AG here pays off the government so they can continue to use old, intensive water use farming methods and grow water-intesive crops because they make a lot of money, while we residents flush our toilets with our bath water. Blame Brown and the RATs.


38 posted on 04/25/2015 9:01:43 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: JPG

I was wondering how the one in Tampa was working. I know several years ago when they were trying to get it online they were having a lot of problems, but I hadn’t heard anything about it recently.


39 posted on 04/25/2015 9:01:43 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: JPG

Looks like liberal politicians aren’t getting enough kick backs.


40 posted on 04/25/2015 9:02:37 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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