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‘We Will Not Obey’: Christian Leaders Threaten Civil Disobedience if Gay Marriage Legalized
Townhall ^ | 04/29/2015 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 04/29/2015 10:55:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/29/2015 11:05:41 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: SeekAndFind
Here's hoping they stick to their guns about this one.

Christians are getting relegated to the status of untermensch with no end in sight. At what point do they say "Enough"?

Hopefully we're starting to see it...

21 posted on 04/29/2015 11:08:16 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: SeekAndFind

22 posted on 04/29/2015 11:08:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: sickoflibs

Even if nobody would canonize King for his personal life as a whole, it’s worth note that he did bring “I Have A Dream” to the fore. So what if it was borrowed (which in fact it was, word for word, from a white preacher decades before). The important thing in the context is that it was asserted.

Let’s not split hairs or indulge in self righteous gotchas over King. Let’s honor what he was most known for and then keep going.


23 posted on 04/29/2015 11:09:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yosemitest

You have an excellent question, will we obey our Heavenly Father?

Well the first thing on the agenda is to verify that what we are dealing with IS our Heavenly Father and not the Counterfeit From Hell who would negate every grace of Christ Jesus on the way.

You’ve looked a whole lot like you are dealing with the latter and calling it the former.

You can’t pull the Law into the picture unless you adopt the WHOLE Law. I didn’t put that in the bible, God did. We DO have to play by His rules even while hating what He hates.


24 posted on 04/29/2015 11:11:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
… even when military service was involuntary, we still made room for conscientious objectors who did not want to carry weapons. If we can allow people to exempt themselves from defending the country—which is the most important responsibility our government has—we can certainly allow people to exempt themselves from performing same-sex wedding ceremonies!
- Frank Turek

25 posted on 04/29/2015 11:13:08 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse OÂ’Leary)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I agree.
So, ... OBEY God, and that includes ALL of what He COMMANDED us to DO !
26 posted on 04/29/2015 11:14:47 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Old Sarge

They need to bring the genuine God into their pictures, welcoming Him back into their hearts.

Then they can be fortified against this threat and come out smelling like a rose.

Fighting like the world fights is something for the world. It isn’t something for Christians.

The grace of Christ will win the local scene as well as the eternal one, if we allow it to. If we substitute our own clumsy schemes, it won’t win and the devil will just mow us down forthwith.


27 posted on 04/29/2015 11:16:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: agere_contra

Mrs. Billy Graham said the truth the best. God will owe Sodom and Gomorrah an apology if God does not destroy America.


28 posted on 04/29/2015 11:16:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: Yosemitest

So when are you repenting of wearing mixed fabrics?

You yourself said ALL... don’t be a hypocrite.


29 posted on 04/29/2015 11:16:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: no-to-illegals

He wouldn’t owe anyone squat... the relationship is grace, from start to finish. There are even hints that some souls were saved in Sodom in spite of perishing in physical flames... Jesus said it would rise up and condemn Bethsaida and Corazin.


30 posted on 04/29/2015 11:18:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

God Bless them.

If the church in Germany had issued such a declaration in the early thirties, things might have gone differently.

But, alas, it was a blessed few ministers that did, and they ended up getting killed.


31 posted on 04/29/2015 11:20:25 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

yep, souls can and are saved under any and all circumstances ... even destruction


32 posted on 04/29/2015 11:20:53 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: rarestia
I remember when Roe V. Wade was being decided. They told us that to have legal abortion - it would get rid of child abuse, crime, you name it. But all the problems they said would be eliminated actually increased.

Whacking the protection of marriage laws between a man and a woman will open more cans of snakes than we can possibly imagine right now.

One thing - what keeps gays from doing more kissing and hugging and holding hands right now is that it is not socially acceptable. Guess what we and our children will be witness to if the laws are lifted?

You will be eating at a restaurant with your family and you will be forced to watch the two guys in the next booth going at it. And there will be no law protecting public decency because they will have privileged law on their side.

I was at private lake and there was a woman walking around with nearly all of her buttocks showing. A small group of us parents went to the owner and asked if the offending woman could be asked to cover up her greatly exposed @$$. He agreed since his lake was a family-friendly place. So, he went up to her and asked her to either put something on to cover up or leave the lake. She left after wiggling her @$$ at us.

This marriage law will allow these people to push for more "rights" and I gotta tell you a couple of guys or a couple of gals marrying each other will be the least of our concerns.

33 posted on 04/29/2015 11:24:44 AM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Your God or your government... Which will you choose?


34 posted on 04/29/2015 11:26:12 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Hillary should be in the Big House... not the White House.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You sound like a REPROBATE!
You make NO SENSE.
35 posted on 04/29/2015 11:27:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SeekAndFind

I understand that this will be used to try to force churches to marry homosexuals, but I don’t understand how it can be legally justified or successful.

Churches have never been obligated to marry anyone whom they do not believe should be married, for any reason. Many people are married in civil services because they do not meet or do not wish to meet criteria set up by the church. Any minister/pastor/priest can refuse to marry a couple who do not meet the criteria of their church, even if the couple are otherwise legally able to be married. In particular, a divorced, un-anulled Catholic may not remarry in any Catholic church.

So while I predict a great uproar and many flamboyant attempts to force churches to participate in these sham marriages should this turn out badly in the USSC, I don’t see a change in the civil definition of marriage being able to be forced (legitimately) on churches.

Just my 2c
O2


36 posted on 04/29/2015 11:27:42 AM PDT by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: Da Coyote

Difference is I burn their property not mine or innocent persons.


37 posted on 04/29/2015 11:30:30 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Slyfox

Incest, polygamy, and bestiality are already coming out as needing to be considered by the whackjobs on the left.

What bugs me personally is how we’re considered “religious fanatics” for standing up for what is a religious institution. There are times when I seriously question myself and wonder if I am truly what they say I am. Then I realize that I’m taking cues from people who espouse sexual intercourse with members of their own gender.


38 posted on 04/29/2015 11:30:50 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Slyfox
gotta tell you a couple of guys or a couple of gals marrying each other will be the least of our concerns.

Absolutely ... every snake of anarchy will take a place of prominence and seek protection under the law. Each evil will seek to be made equal and it shall be named discrimination if all perversions are not granted protection. The cards will fall quickly ...

39 posted on 04/29/2015 11:31:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Dennis Prager has a good analysis in his book “Still the Best Hope”, that we are in a war of world-views: American Judeo-Christian, liberal secular and Islamo-fascist.

The liberal-secular readily line up with Islamo-fascist because it is a non-atheist ally against Judeo-Christian, a way to attack Christianity while saying you’re not anti-god, see, because the Muslims agree with me. And the liberal-secularists do it because they see the Judeo-Christian groups as if they’ll come marching out to roll out a Christian version of the Taliban state. Yet they ignore the true Shariah state that Muslims implement when they take over, which calls for the death of atheists.

Review of the Book “Still the Best Hope” by Dennis Prager
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/Review-of-the-Book-Still-the-Best-Hope-by-Dennis-Prager


40 posted on 04/29/2015 11:32:52 AM PDT by tbw2
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