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Elderly Couple Honk At Off Duty Police Officer: Cop Breaks Man’s Nose, Smashes Teeth Out With Gun
KTVI via Youtubee ^ | 05/13/15

Posted on 05/13/2015 1:55:04 PM PDT by Enlightened1

Man suffers broken nose, teeth in South County road rage incident

ST. LOUIS COUNTY, MO (KTVI) – St. Louis County Police are investigating a road rage incident that happened Sunday near Jefferson Barracks. FOX 2’s Rebecca Roberts sat down with the Bonne Terre couple, who feel they’re lucky to be alive.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; breaks; cop; donutwatch; elderly; leo; missouri; notelderly; roadrage
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To: bramps
And do you truly think they planned on having a civil discussion when ‘gesturing’ the truck into a parking lot?

Would you ever consider doing such a thing with hopes of having a civil discussion?

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The story doesn't make sense to me, but perhaps I'm overly suspicious. The last thing that I would have done was to pull over into a parking lot after someone allegedly terrorized me.

81 posted on 05/13/2015 3:37:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bramps

Even if it was not a civil discussion this guy committed assault and battery. I don’t care if she flipped him the bird and called him a redheaded woodpecker. That is not grounds for attacking someone. Frankly in the neck of the woods we live in and everyone ccw he would have been lucky not to be a dead off duty police officer. Mr. GG2 would have plugged the guy in a second if he raised a gun.


82 posted on 05/13/2015 3:39:30 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Enlightened1

They don’t look elderly to me, and there is only one side of the story being reported.

Of course, for some people around here, an accusation against a cop is the gospel truth.


83 posted on 05/13/2015 3:40:16 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is not nut-job central command. In times like these, cities and municipalities are hurting for cash. There are 90 million plus people under or not employed at all. These days, if you catch a cops attention you better be damned certain that at the very least you are going to get “charge stacked” so the DA can punish you with fines to make up for the taxes not being collected. And with the younger breed hitting the streets; I’ve witnessed them; their attitude is quite literally “us vs. them” and WE citizens are the “them”. It really isn’t a stretch of the imagination that “off-duty” no longer see themselves that way; the are numero uno in their own eyes and the laws do not apply to them. I have no doubt there are hundreds of thousands of good cops out there; the problem is they don’t speak up against the scum that is infecting their ranks which makes them just as guilty.


84 posted on 05/13/2015 3:40:41 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: doorgunner69

Well that sure is an informed opinion..LOL!!!

Well, flushed at least one out?<<

Actually, if he was in the wrong, I don’t mind if he goes to jail for a long time.

You just don’t believe we have a constitution, and it really does not get past your prejudices.

But then again, your opinion again is uninformed. Two times in the same thread.

WOW
DK


85 posted on 05/13/2015 3:41:40 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Moonman62

Tell me this...

If this was two ordinary citizens in a road rage incident, then do you really think the police would not arrest anyone for assault and battery at the scene???

YOU KNOW, someone would have been arrested in a road rage incident. Certainly if there was assault and battery. This looks very bad.


86 posted on 05/13/2015 3:47:46 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Moonman62
They don’t look elderly to me, and there is only one side of the story being reported.

You are correct....There is no report yet on how badly the old dude's face damaged the cop's gun..............

88 posted on 05/13/2015 3:49:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Georgia Girl 2
You are right as far as words not being grounds for attacking someone. But I'm guessing she gave them the finger and pulled into a parking lot with the intent of being the beaters, not the beatee’s. She or her husband may have assaulted the cop first. I just think it gets nasty around here when accusing cops, and it never hurts to wait for all relevant facts before making such harsh judgments.

If the facts are as she says, I hope the cop goes to jail.

89 posted on 05/13/2015 3:50:21 PM PDT by bramps
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To: Farmer Dean

Cops have been killed in ambushes for decades.


90 posted on 05/13/2015 3:52:04 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Making harmless people defenseless, does not make dangerous people harmless)
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To: bramps

Yeh but here’s the thing. As far as I can tell we don’t know what the woman and man did. Or what the cop did until the investigation is over. I would say most people of a certain age don’t go looking for physical confrontation. Just going by law of averages. Apparently there were bystanders who saw what happened and broke it up so the facts should come out.


91 posted on 05/13/2015 3:54:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“I doubt it, the cop was off duty.”

They’re never off duty. If they can arrest you off-duty, and they can, they’re on-duty.


92 posted on 05/13/2015 3:56:46 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I recognize there are bad officers out there, but extrapolating what the mindset of all officers are based on the bad ones, pushes past limits I’m not prepared to buy into.

I wouldn’t be surprised if literally thousands of women and children are rescued each day in this nation by officers responding to a disturbance in the home call.

These calls can as easily as not turn into s situation where the woman sides with the person threatening to harm her just moment before the officers showed up.

So I’m not buying into the premise that the vast majority of officers are evil or willing accomplices to evil.

Do you honestly know everything that takes place in the department/or work location you work in? I’ll bet you know of times when you thought a certain dynamic went one way, when it actually was quite different. And that’s inside a physical location.

When you add in the outside the physical location you share at any given moment, it makes it even harder to know the facts.

You may have knowledge of what supposed witnesses say, but I’ve seen how clicks work within office settings, and you can’t really be sure of the dynamics for certain if you didn’t see it all. Even then sometimes your perspective can be the difference between an accurate or an inaccurate perception.


93 posted on 05/13/2015 3:58:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: bramps

Before ripping me a new one, please answer two simple questions:

What do you think her ‘gesture’ was when she waved them into a parking lot?

Would you ever consider ‘gesturing’ a car with unknown occupants into a parking lot to have a civil discussion?<<

I was not there, so it would strictly be speculation. As this is looking to be viral, my sense is it has already been managed.

No, because I assume violence would follow, unless I was really sure of the context. But I guess I already have at work, but that is under specific rules and regs. And there are a LOT of people with poor driving skills that should not be on the road. Oddly enough, many of them have really crappy interpersonal skills too.

Don’t get why I would want to tear you a new one. There are cop hating fools on this board, but I would assume that is because they have run into AH cops. One thing that is really funny, when I went to an academy, about a third of my class had run into AH cops too. They did not particularly appreciate it either. Kind of a funny perspective, but I don’t think any went physical with them. It would have made becoming one difficult.

DK


94 posted on 05/13/2015 3:59:00 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: sport

People don’t realize the power that an elected sheriff has, which includes the power to investigate. My sheriff has thrown a half-dozen rat bureaucrats in state prison for embezzlement.

A sheriff also has the power to refuse to aid federal law enforcement. That means that the feds are on their own when they enter a county - no assistance from the sheriff - and they had best obey county laws or face arrest or get run out of the county.


95 posted on 05/13/2015 4:00:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Enlightened1

Are police departments issuing steroids to personnel these days?


96 posted on 05/13/2015 4:04:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: jimbug

Depends on the department as far as PEDs go, but all other drugs they do hair samples which is more in depth than a urinalysis.


97 posted on 05/13/2015 4:05:16 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Making harmless people defenseless, does not make dangerous people harmless)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I was driving my somewhat beat-up work truck through Brecksville. A cop was running the light at 82 and 21 by hand. I guess he didn’t like my truck, as he gave me a one second yellow, then red. I had to slam on my brakes. All my tools, pluming pipes etc., slid hard to the front. I gave him the evil eye. When the light changed, I crossed 21, and parked to reset all the stuff in my truck. He came over and started yelling at me. I told him to follow me to the police station. Ha! The police chief was an old neighbor and a friend of mine! It was funny!


98 posted on 05/13/2015 4:06:02 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Enlightened1

Don’t like a broken nose?

Next time we’ll make it your back, serf.


99 posted on 05/13/2015 4:06:18 PM PDT by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere -- Charlie Daniels)
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To: Amagi

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>> “This clown can soon take mail order anger management courses in the comfort of his cell in The Greybar Hotel.” <<

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If there’s anything right in this world!
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100 posted on 05/13/2015 4:11:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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