South Carolina Senate votes to remove Confederate flag from state house grounds, 37-3

Hot Air ^ | July 6, 2015 | Allahpundit

[StoneWall Brigade]

Do you support the removal of the flag that those brave men fought and died for?

[Gator113]

I see Nikki Haley as a coward.

[MeganC]

Do you support the removal of the flag that those brave men fought and died for?

I'm offended at the question, suh, and I shall report this insult to my honor to my husband, the Major.

[Twinkie]

No. The South won’t “rise” again. I’m a Tennessean, a Southerner all my life. My great-great grandfather was a Rebel soldier at Shiloh, TN; told my grandmother Shiloh was “awful, just horrible, the most horrible thing I’ve ever seen in my life”. My parents took me to Shiloh when I was a small child over 60 yrs. ago. The Bloody Pond was darker blood red then than it is today. - My father was an American combat soldier in the Army in N. Africa, Italy & Germany before I was born. - You can thank him, and others like him who became men who would charge Hell with a bucket of water during that conflict & took it to Hitler where he lived! The Civil War insured that YOU would NEVER dare THINK about seceding from the Union. My great-great grandfather never owned slaves; was a slave himself, working his Southern land, plowing with a mule. - Do you reckon “the South” has been punished enough yet?!

[MeganC]

I am seeing that my post has been misread as a mockery of the South. It was meant as a lament of the loss of the manly culture that the flag stood for.

It took a certain kind to face the rifles and cannon at Shiloh and I doubt that most American men these days would have the nerve to face death like that. The pathetic and vile creatures that pass for ‘men’ these days offend me.

While I never owned a Battle Flag of Virginia (until UPS delivered one on Friday) I looked to that flag as the remnant of a different time, a holdout against the emasculated culture of our time in which everything masculine, honorable, and patriotic has been demonized. And now it is disappearing as the war against America and the war against Men enters its final stages.

Did the South have slavery? Yes, it did. And so did the Union. It’s an irony that slavery in the North didn’t end until AFTER the Civil War was over which makes clear that the war was never really about slavery in the first place.

That said, the flag for me never represented racism because some racists liked it anymore than the US flag represented racism because the KKK marched down Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC waving it.

Right or wrong, that flag represented men who were willing to fight for what they believed in. In that time it was a common virtue for men to display uncommon valor.

Not so much anymore when a whole nation kneels before homosexual degenerates.

[ForAmerica]

Memo: The South WON’T rise again.

That's a good thing for me.

[StoneWall Brigade]

I offer a full apology to you.

[apocalypto]

Nikki Haley just revealed what she really is like. She has no respect for American history or freedom of speech and is basically a bigot, somebody who does not like the South. Maybe the rumors about her were true after all.

[Tzfat]

Nikki chose poorly. She is clearly not a Southerner.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

It is flying at a Confederate Memorial now ... what the hell???

[MeganC]

Accepted, good sir.

[catfish1957]

Cowards......

[catfish1957]

One of my 5 CW veteran ancestors also fought and died at Shiloh.

I for one take extreme exception to a group of liberals and blacks attacking their service and my heritage. For 99% of us southern folks, the CBF stands for southern honor and deep reflection of family and God.

Pretty much what the left wing detests.

[upchuck]

From an AP story on this subject posted at Yahoo News:

The Senate rejected three amendments. One would have put a different Confederate flag on the pole. A second would fly the flag only on Confederate Memorial Day, and the third would leave the flag's fate up to a popular vote.

State Sen. Lee Bright, who suggested the popular vote, said the Confederate flag has been misused by people like Dylann Roof, who is charged with murder in the church shootings and who posed in pictures with the rebel banner.

"I'm more against taking it down in this environment than any other time just because I believe we're placing the blame of what one deranged lunatic did on the people that hold their Southern heritage high," said Bright, a Republican.

A popular vote makes more sense than a vote by the legislature. The legislature is afraid of us. Too bad Sen. Bright didn't beat linda.

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[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

See, it's never enough with the Left.

This memorial was itself a compromise in 2000, when liberals bitched about the flag being on top of the state capitol building.

So a deal was made to move it to a memorial.

Now the flag is gone and the Left is going to go after removing all of the other Confederate names and history.

[elcid1970]

If the liberals want to go after a really racist memorial on the State House grounds, they need look no further than the statue of “Pitchfork Ben” Tillman about seventy feet west of the Confederate Soldier memorial. Been there since 1940.

Look him up; he was evil. But all the libs & blacks care about hauling down is a battle flag.

[Twinkie]

I doubt any flag was the tangible thing my ancestors fought for; it had more to do with their life - the land - their children & the threat that any invaders posed to them & their lives. My Daddy always said that Lincoln didn’t HAVE to have that war - that certain inventions such as the cotton gin would soon render slavery a moot point. My folks didn’t regard Lincoln on the level of a saint. There was a lot more to that war than keeping slavery going & the bottom line was, as it is in most things, the Almighty Dollar $$$$$$$$$$. - Time marches on & soon, World War I & World War II would come along and demand the best we had to give, North, South, East & West.

[Former Fetus]

LET THE PEOPLE VOTE!!!(Yes, I am screaming)

[Carry me back]

Plenty of confederate flags around. SC is playing the game.

[Former Fetus]

That statue was vandalized last week with red paint.