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How Chinese Students are 'Cheating' to Get into U.S. Universities
Forbes ^ | 7/13/2015 | Johann Nylander

Posted on 07/13/2015 5:25:33 AM PDT by tellw

Ghostwrites, dubious consultants and falsified applications are being used by many of the Chinese students who apply to enroll at U.S. universities, according to a new CNN report. A 21-year-old woman from Jiangsu Province told the publication how her parents paid three consultants $4,500 to fill out the application, write her personal essay and compose teacher recommendation letters. The reason: Her level of English wasn’t strong enough. “I did feel slightly guilty but all my friends did the same thing,” the woman said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: admissions; aliens; cheating; china; college; highereducation; immigrants; visas
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If you took the SAT recently you were competing against Chinese cheaters too.
1 posted on 07/13/2015 5:25:33 AM PDT by tellw
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My experience is that Universities LOVE foreign students willing to pay higher out of state tuitions.


2 posted on 07/13/2015 5:28:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tellw

I’m surprised that they actually have to resort to cheating. Wouldn’t affirmative action and diversity concerning college admissions be enough to let them in concerning race issues as opposed to having really good marks like the privileged white would need?


3 posted on 07/13/2015 5:30:59 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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To: Gaffer

Except that is a paradox for their love of Mexicans who get a free ride basically.


4 posted on 07/13/2015 5:33:42 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: tellw

UC Irvine is something like 70% Asian people.


5 posted on 07/13/2015 5:34:37 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: tellw

My son and his friend took the SAT’s 2 years ago next to two non-English speaking Chinese students. They completely bagged the English portion and cheated through the whole Math section by swapping answers.
My son’s friend spoke Chinese and told my son what they were doing.


6 posted on 07/13/2015 5:35:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yes, but I don’t think that’s a pervasive attitude throughout the country. Foreign ‘paying’ students are a valuable commodity.


7 posted on 07/13/2015 5:36:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tellw

The realization dawns that the number of folks in the so-called elite(s) who are not complete frauds is...vanishing.

Leads to an increasingly skeptical view of things as one ages.


8 posted on 07/13/2015 5:37:43 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: tellw

How many American students can write their own papers?


9 posted on 07/13/2015 5:39:11 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Gaffer

Yes and they’ll reject in staters to make room for internationals. In staters basically told to go to community college now and then transfer.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/why-straight-as-may-not-get-you-into-uw-this-year/


10 posted on 07/13/2015 5:39:32 AM PDT by tellw
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To: tellw

Oh yes. Most certainly.


11 posted on 07/13/2015 5:40:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: OttawaFreeper

Not sure if Chinese students benefit from AA since Asian Americans are overrepresented at many good schools already.


12 posted on 07/13/2015 5:42:04 AM PDT by tellw
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To: tellw

Anyone who believes transcripts from Chinese schools is a fool.


13 posted on 07/13/2015 5:44:35 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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The problem is, Big Education is one of the most, if not the most, corrupt industries / institutions in this country.....and that’s before you factor in this new tidbit.


14 posted on 07/13/2015 5:46:03 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: tellw

This is only to get into elite universities.

The average university will gladly take all cash payers who apply.


15 posted on 07/13/2015 5:52:02 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: gaijin

Try 39%, as of 2010 stats. About the same as whites and Latinos combined.


16 posted on 07/13/2015 6:07:39 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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“My experience is that Universities LOVE foreign students willing to pay higher out of state tuitions.”

This is the simple fact. The thought that today’s universities have ANY standards whatsoever when it comes to someone willing to pay is ludicrous.

Universities today do not care about anything except money - who will pay and how much and minimizing money “left on the table” when it comes to the shell game of tuition/room and board/fees.

Chinese students are perfect for todays university. They pay a premium, and since they are asian, you don’t have to cater to them like other minorities and pretend that they are special.


17 posted on 07/13/2015 6:15:26 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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It might be comforting to some to think that cheating is the reason they’re successful. Don’t kid yourself...they work their a** off.


18 posted on 07/13/2015 6:17:37 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: tellw

Cheating on applications isn’t just at the college level. I teach high school science, and some of my incoming foreign students have much lower English proficiency than expected based on their applications. Our admin is changing its screening procedures for foreign applicants to include a Skype interview to verify English proficiency. Cheating doesn’t stop once they get into their desired school either. I have a lot of problems with certain of my foreign students cheating on tests and assignments, demanding extra time and test re-takes, etc. Their classmates sometimes complain that the foreign students who ‘don’t understand’ in the classroom understand and speak very well in social situations. Social language is admittedly simpler than academic language, but I suspect there is merit to their complaints.


19 posted on 07/13/2015 6:18:56 AM PDT by Think free or die
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"Don’t kid yourself...they work their a** off."

In most cases my foreign students have indeed been hard workers. Some have also boosted their hard work with cheating. They're not mutually exclusive.

20 posted on 07/13/2015 6:21:43 AM PDT by Think free or die
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