Posted on 08/01/2015 12:51:09 PM PDT by tired&retired
Same old song and dance, which is why Romney was nominated (both Huckabee and Santorum being in allowed Romney to win the nomination) and we ended up with a Moslem socialist realigning our military to support Iran while the Internet entertains us ...
I have no interest in Huckleberry and, though I voted for him in the 2012 primary, because he was the last conservative (social, military, foreign policy) standing against the Romney tidal wave of Wall Street and K Street greedypig money, I think it is time for Santorum to give up the pretense that he is a serious candidate. He should withdraw.
I have always admired Bobby Jindal and his awesome competence but he is not getting the nomination either. He should withdraw. Senator Vitter is running to replace Jindal at the end of Jindal's term. Jindal, a Brown University alumnus could teach or be appointed as Vitter's successor in the U. S. Senate and then for a full term or become a cabinet secretary of almost any department in the next administration.
Dr. Ben Carson is apparently a superb man and was an extraordinary pediatric neurosurgeon who had the sense to retire before advancing age might betray his surgical hands. I am puzzled by his recent success in polls but I doubt it will last. He has a very compelling backstory as to how he rose from fatherless welfare child in the Detroit ghetto to the pinnacle of medicine as a pediatric neurosurgeon of major note. Politics is also a profession as he and Trump will likely discover when some innocent remark blows up in their faces. I would trust Dr. Carson or Bobby Jindal, as cabinet members, to dismantle Obozocare and put it out of our misery and begin to deconstruct the abortion mansion. POTUS for either seems not in the cards.
Rick Perry seems quite unlikely to be ready for prime time despite his success as governor in the very important state of Texas. He is running out of money and time and excuses for running. He should withdraw.
Rand Paul is not Ron Paul but is that enough? He is pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun and he intends long overdue outreach to blacks and Hispanics. He still has the family albatross of intentionally wimpy foreign and military policy. I think he is a lot more talented than is indicated by his campaign to date but seems, understandably, to be far more concerned about legal maneuvering to create a Kentucky caucus system for re-nomination to the Senate to get around some legal prohibition on running in two primaries (POTUS and Senate) on one day. He plays an interesting and important role in the Senate and should stay there for now. He is young enough to run in the future.
Speaking of young (and charismatic at that), there is Marco Rubio who is giving up a hard-won Senate seat. I like his personality more than any of the others while recognizing that his "comprehensive immigration" blunder with Schmucky Chewmer, John McCain, Linda Graham and others has badly damaged his credibility with that large swath of GOP voters and other voters who are obsessed (probably rightly so) with the matter of our country being overrun by foreigners selected for their probable allegiance to the Demonratic Party. OTOH, Rubio has a compelling backstory of his parents fleeing Cuba for freedom and working here as a bartender and as a hotel maid, charm to burn, a future-orientation and vision that appeals to the young who are otherwise not favorable to the GOP, and he knows how to sell all of us descended from immigrants on that heritage. So far, he is the star of this class in terms of pure political talent but a bit damaged over the immigration issue as well. Tough foreign and military policy, solidly social conservative. It is also claimed that he is being funded by the usual gang of GOP-E suspects who funded Romney. That will not help his image. I still have an open mind on Rubio, who also seems to be quickly rising in polls although again I don't know why.
Scott Walker has the most Reagan-like credentials. A good gut politician. Says what he means and means what he says. Wisconsin, courtesy of Walker's leadership, now has open carry of guns, a lot of pro-life progress, Right to Work both public and private(to defund the unions and the Demonrats, inter alia), is attacking teacher tenure at the Maoist/Lenininist/Stalinist University of Wisconsin and elsewhere, saved the Wisconsin Supreme Court majority from recall, enacted legislation to require photo ID to vote, beat his own recall, that of his Lt. Gov Kleefisch, and enough state senators to maintain his slim legislative majority. He has a good plan to end Obozocare, is committed to deal with Obozo's sponsoring of the invasion by undocumented Demonrats and, if he gets to deal with the Islamofascists as POTUS, I am somewhat convinced that he will force Muhammed to rise from the grave, repent and instruct the Islamofascists to understand that he and they have always been wrong. I live in northern Illinois and often listen to Milwaukee talk radio. I have been following Walker there from state representative to Milwaukee County Board Chairman by recalling about half the Board for massive corruption, to governor, the recall the re-election. He hasn't got Rubio's sex appeal but he is only a few years older (47?) and I can tell you that Walker IS THE REAL DEAL. He has to get the poll numbers up.
Ted Cruz. I'd walk barefoot over hot coals for him anytime. He is the single best US Senator of this era, a worthy ally of Mike Lee, an obvious enemy of Mitch McConnell and all the other GOP-E whores whom I love to hate. Ted Cruz appointing YOUNG conservative successors to Ginsberg, Breyer and, maybe we get lucky, and discover indictable behavior by Kagan and Sotomayor to force their resignations (see Fortas, Abe) and the older conservatives when the time comes.
Carly Fiorina says a lot of the right things. She is useful as a one woman anti-Hilary division. Again, a cabinet position is far more likely than POTUS. She also has generated a lot of emotional resentment among computer professionals. SecCommerce? She should stay in to verbally finish off the Arkansas Medusa and then withdraw.
Romney Redux? Not in his lifetime. Not in God's lifetime! The single most despicable candidate EVER nominated by the GOP and he would have been no better than Obozo and maybe a bit worse since the GOP as a viable vehicle for conservative ideas and ideals would have been left in smoking ruins along with the US. Obozo can only destroy the country. Romney would have destroyed both. Don't care to live under Obozo-like policies? Get the message. The GOP-E is every bit as anti-God, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, nervous about GUNS in the hands of the peasants, "pro-normalization" of relations with every tinpot murderous dictator in the world so long as they and their US Chamber of Corrupt Cronyism buddies rake in the profits from the slave states and their slaves (so MUCH more profitable than employing labor free to organize and demand of the Lords of Wall Street higher wages and better working conditions than Third World slaves), anti-military in the sense of tying its hands to serve the agendas of every anti-American whiner on Earth including all too often their own snooty, useless, effete fashionable leftist offspring etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum ad nauseam.
Same old song and dance? You must be referencing the GOP-E's infernal insistence on nominating well-funded whores. That actual conservatives despise their whores too much to vote for them as POTUS is not an old song and dance. It is a newly emerging strategy. I it succeeds, we get to keep or country. If not, there is probably nowhere for us to flee to. As to the conservative resistance: Celebrate! Celebrate! Dance to the music!
Make a point of submitting to and joining with actual conservatives to nominate a candidate worthy of our votes for a change. Too much trouble? Toooooooo bad! Rule or ruin!
Otherwise, would you prefer as POTUS Hillary, Bernie, Old Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bill Ayres, Bernardine Doehrn, Al Sharpton, or someone similar????? Don't nominate someone worth voting for because one of that group is what we are going to get if the GOP-E continues to use oceans of corporate money on "moderate" losers.
You cannot head us off at the pass by asking ridiculously premature questions. We are making and have made lifetime commitments and NOT to the Republican Party as currently dominated by $$$$$$. Our commitments are to the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, American exceptionalism, the protection of innocent human life and restoration of the good life for Americans JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE AMERICANS so long as they are willing to give a fair day's work for a fair day's wage and benefits. In short we favor social conservatism, RTKBA, military and foreign policy conservatism and, at least in my case, placing of what passes nowadays as economic conservatism on the back burner over a low flame for as long as it takes to achieve the goals of the other conservatisms.
No more GOP-E whores like Thad Cockroach, Nancyboy Kirk, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, John McCain, John Cornyn, Mitch McConnell, LAMAR!!! Alexander, Bob Corker, John Boehner, Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, Adam Publicity Hound Kinzinger and their ilk.
Finally, we are at a VERRRRRRY early stage of this 2016 POTUS process. This is the time for thinning the herd. Jim Gilmore? Why? Out he goes. Linda Graham? Likewise. I would prefer a dignified withdrawal by Trump but that does not seem in the cards. Jebbie? Why? He is this year's ultimate Wall Street/K Street/USCofC whore. He is embarrassing himself (immigration, Common Core, willing to throw Dubya under the bus, looks FAR too much like his mother for whom I have no use, etc., and reflects his dad's passion for a "New World Order" and for verbal dishonesty). Want candid opinions of any whom I have not mentioned, just ask.
Ronaldus Maximus left DC a long time ago. Conservatives of the sort I have described owe the GOP ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And we won't be helping them elect some whore. The peasants are revolting whether they like it or not. Muffy and Skipper can and probably will go straight to hell along with their overstuffed trust funds.
At this point in the process, we should insist that each and every candidate commit absolutely to support the party nominee, campaign for that nominee and be prepared to serve in any position offered. If not, winnow out any objector. If Trump continues to "hold his options open, Trump is fired and then destroying him becomes a top priority. The demand for party loyalty should be addressed to the candidates not to the conservatives. If conservatives get the policies we want, the GOP-E can have the contracts and money they crave and grovel for. If not, not!
If conservative principles are inconvenient to the GOP uber alles crowd, the principles are still the principles and will continue to be. Conservatives should use this time (now until a couple of weeks before Christmas, to thin the herd, settle on ONE acceptable candidate and use persuasion and the primaries to drive the rest out of the race).
Conservatives in the base decide what they want, policy and candidates, make credible demands to back up what they want and whom they want, bind the candidates (remember: Read my lips! No new taxes!, the lie that ended Bush the Elder's career) to promises. The candidates may and will lie and their lies become the instruments of their destruction. The only time that the people of this country seem to have any say so is in the nomination and election process.
Once the winner is sworn in, he or she will hallucinate that he or she has become a god.
With a good candidate from the many we can choose from and the pathetic quality of Her Satanic Majesty and the other Demonrat still on the bench, we probably kick the crap out of the Demonrats next year, retake the White Mosque for America, take a net of about 6 Senate seats and a few new governorships and some new Congresscritters and a raft of another several hundred state legislators (the future of our movement and our nation.
Huck didn’t run in 2012, you’re thinking of Gingrich, who is just as bad as Romney quite frankly despite prevailing wisdom here at the time, he would have lost worse though because he’s a jerk and a clown.
Anyway, there’s no arguing with the “I won’t vote for a RINO” crowd. You and I have a philosophical difference with them, no one is gonna change their mind for them. If you ask me 8 years of Obama prove that even a RINO like GW Bush (and I hate his guts and in the past had thought maybe it would have been better if Kerry had beat him) is much much better, and 4 years of Pelosi proved we need a Congress with as few rats as possible, PERIOD. If some people here got their wish we’d have an 80% dem Congress cause over half of Republicans are “RINO scum just as bad as the democrats”.
Personally I think Trump is a con man and no conservative but he’s more conservative than GD Hillary or Biden that’s for sure, I’m voting GOP for President, end of story. Anyone who runs third party is either a fool (Virgil Goode), insane megalomanic (TR in 1912), or wants to help the dems (Perot).
Voting for a candidate that can’t win has the same mathematical effect as not voting, whatever. If someone can’t stomach voting for a Romney or a Jeb or a Trump, fine, I disagree but can respect that.
Those that say they’d vote dem are outright insane though. Anyone who admits to voting D (in normal elections) should be banned from this site if you ask me, lucky for them this ain’t my rodeo.
Scalia and Thomas and Kennedy and Ginsberg are getting up there, losing this election is not an option.
Most of the DEMs share enough agenda that with them anything goes it seems. As a result the same ones who will vote for Crazy Joe, Obama, Hillary, etc will vote for Sanders as well. When they don't see the GOP putting forth a better choice other than a GOP run of the mill liberal Elitist they will stay on the farm.
If people would vote on their values rather than a beauty and ego contest ran by schmucks who never leave DC we might see change.
One thing makes my blood boil fast which is for persons to say a vote for someone you voted for was wasted, a vote for the enemy, or similar to that point. A persons own conscience in the voting booth was one of the things the founders hoped would help keep the checks and balances working. Party has replaced principles as of late. 90% of the current GOP elected are left of JFK. GWB Bush was closer in policy to LBJ than Reagan. Yet they don't see the damage straight party ticket voting causes? I'll take a one term DEM to see the end of careers like Alexander, Coker, McCain, Hatch, Boehner, McConnell, etc any day. A fresh DEM can't inflict a fraction of the damage the listed Republicans have.
I believe {just a gut feeling} this election will not bode well. Someone isn't who they say they are and may well be fixing to scorch Conservatives a new one by discrediting them. I just hope Cruz watches out and Walker too for that matter. Generally persons do not change their politics radically in one election cycle. If they do then I would ask why? And what is it to Mitt to be involved in all this? Returning a favor?
Yeap, they've become a power oligarchy and staying in power at all cost is their joint end goal. The Bush family friendly with the Clintons etc all because they have established themselves as being our ruling class.
I'd love to see term limits in congress and even placed on judges. That is the only peaceful resolution I can see to ending their choke hold on this nation. I don't want to hear about their bipartisan "friends across the aisle". Someone selling out our nation is a tyrant and is a friend to no one but other tyrants. Way too much civility in congress these days let the fist land where they may :>}
My friend, you’re WAY more charitable to that cast of characters than I am.
When I was young, there was an Australian fellow, Fred Schwarz, who was perpetually appearing all over the US with an informative little seminar on the theme: You can trust the communists (to BE communists). Today we an trust the Demonrats to be Demonrats and the GOP to be the fraudulent GOP as well unless the peasants can succeed at revolting against the powers that be in the party.
You are more experienced than I in analyzing and sensibly responding to the banality of evil at the top of the party. You may remember how vigorously I tried to resist your arguments when I first encountered you here in about 2007-2008. Kneejerk party loyalty was a hard habit to shuck off after 40 years of mostly lying to myself as the party and, as a result, the country degenerated. All I had to show for it was eight mostly wonderful Reagan years but he was a genuine outsider and never a creature of the party.
That close brush with death last fall and the long partial recovery keeps me focused on the words: Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. I try to love my neighbor as God wants me to love my neighbor, whether I like my neighbor or not. I am mortal in this world and closer, day by day, to eternity. I am re-reading the Christian classic from the fifteenth century: The Imitation of Christ by Thomas a Kempis, a few pages at a time.
God bless you and yours!
And God bless you and yours too, brother.
I don’t think God is going to give us a hard time for being too charitable or too merciful. If we’re not giving people room to repent, we’re not acting after God’s heart, that’s for sure.
But I don’t think He’s too happy if we’re nothing more than naive, ignorant tools for the devil’s destructive deceptions, either. And once we’ve uncovered the deceptions, I think He requires that we clue in our fellow travelers through this vale of tears.
One last thing: I’m sure thankful to the Lord for keeping you around here for awhile. You’re a blessing to me, personally. Selfish, I know. But there it is.
So; there's TWO of us!
Three plus my wife makes four.
Black elk nailed it and I will go one step farther You can add NeoCon RINO Trump tot he list of candidates I will not support in any way.
Conservatives can not support Trump. The difference between Trump and Willard is Billions verses Millions. Trump supported Obozo over McQueeg and still supports Single payer health care. He is wobbly on the 2nd Amendment, and has supported a wealth tax.
But what if it ends up being him against the Witch in the general??
I held my nose and voted for the RINO's the last two times. I just can't do it again.
The difference is the Democrats don’t actively screw their base. They keep up with supporting maximum Marxist government and so does the GOP Establishment.
Vitter isn’t likely to gift Jindal the last year of his Senate seat, the two don’t like each other.
Dr. Carson is doing well for one enormous reason: he’s not a politician. The Conservative base is fed up with politicians. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility he ends up as a VP pick.
I would not shed a tear to see Rand Paul leave the Senate. KY needs a dependable Conservative instead of the two it sends to DC now in the Senate.
Roofio sold out his supporters before the ink on his election certificate was dry. As it turned out, there was little demonstrable difference between him and the Orange Menace, except for being a more convincing liar. I’m very happy to see his establishment toady ass hit the bricks in Jan 2017. Good riddance.
Walker’s time to run was in 2012. I urged drafting him to stop Willard. He’s gotten lost in the shuffle and is sadly starting to tread towards the establishment, which must be completely and thoroughly destroyed if we’re to save this party.
Cruz, still voting for him in the primary (unless he drops out and then I go with Trump). I expect he will be the #1 choice as Trump’s VP and then becomes President and hopefully Chief Justice of SCOTUS afterwards.
Fiorina: No.
Bingo. Blindly rubber stamping a candidate, especially a bad one, means you've become a part of the problem. I'm done with that game.
I understand many of the concerns regarding Trump, many have validity. However, the times we’re in now require someone who is strong and fearless (and most of all, unapologetic). I’m sick to death of the gutless turds that infest the GOP like a cancer. One un-PC comment from them, the media attacks, and the cowardly toadies wet their underpants, apologize profusely and go hide in a corner. I’m so sick and fed up with it, you have no idea.
Willard, unlike Trump, was not in it to win it, but to stop a Conservative from taking the nomination and denying Zero his second 4-year tenure to drag America down further. Trump wants to win, he wants to obliterate the party establishment, and he is utterly un-PC and unapologetic. They hit him, he hits back twice and hard and knocks out their teeth and makes them piss their drawers and cower in a corner.
We haven’t had a man of strength and courage run for President since Reagan (sorry, kids, Dubya was a weasel, too, pretending to be a stronger force). It is such an incredible breath of fresh air, you have no idea. If he wins the Presidency, I sincerely believe he will take this country in a different and better direction and be able to deal with critics in a way virtually no other Republican can.
He’s already proven he’s surrounding himself with Conservative advisors, and not just for show. He also has the ability to get non-traditional voters to come over to support the GOP (and given that since after 1988, we’ve only gotten a majority of the vote precisely one time, that is needed badly). He also wants to instill patriotism back to America, and aside from a brief flare-up after 9/11, has frankly been missing for 3 decades.
I’m still voting for Cruz in the primary, if he’s still in, but as long as Trump continues his present course, I can indeed vote for him with a clear conscience in 2016 (indeed, perhaps the most enthusiastic vote since I started to cast a vote beginning in 1992).
Not to repeat what FMDJ said, but I agree with what he’s written.
Like I said before, IMO, there’s only 4 candidates worth looking at.
POTUS: Trump, Cruz
VP: Carson, Fiorina
The rest of the GOP field is “the same ole same ole”. It’ll be more Bush-esque political patty cake.
Like I’ve commented privately to some of you, for all of the hang wringing and suffering “our” side endures, here’s Donald Trump, who’s telling “them” to FO. If you don’t want that, don’t like that, then >>YOU’RE<< the problem. Go to Old Country Buffet. Wait for Lawrence Welk reruns to come on.
I’ve seen comparisons of Trump to RR. That’s a stretch. But here’s a comparison that I’ve considered: Trump is the real life Bulworth. That, I can go with.
Why not?
We gonna wait for Mr. Perfect?
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