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Carly Fiorina is No Conservative Candidate
Freedom Outpost ^ | 8/13/2015 | Kelleigh Nelson 

Posted on 08/14/2015 5:20:22 AM PDT by HomerBohn

Several of my friends have opined that Carly Fiorina would make a great VP to Donald Trump. She sounds so good, and she makes some valid points, but actions speak louder than words, as we all well know. In my book, Carly Fiorina is just another Trotskyite, and if you won't go that far, she clearly uses Marxist techniques. Read on, and I'll explain.

In actuality, I'm not sure writing about Fiorina, Jindal, Rubio, Graham, or Perry (again), isn't a waste of time. As it stands right now, the top contenders are Trump, Jeb Bush, and maybe Cruz, the latter of whom I've written about previously and now have updated. Nevertheless, readers have asked for information on all the GOP candidates. Since Carly allegedly won the early debates of the lesser contenders, she's next on the list.

Fiorina's Early Business Background

Cara Carleton "Carly" Sneed Fiorina, born September 6, 1954, is an American politician, former business executive, and current chair of the non-profit organization Good360. Carly's father was Joseph Sneed, long-time alleged conservative judge on the liberal 9th circuit federal appeals court for more than three decades and a member of the judicial panel that appointed Kenneth Starr to look into President Bill Clinton's financial dealings. A lot of good that did, and look at what is going on today! Sneed died in 2008.

In 1980, Fiorina rose through the ranks to become an executive at AT&T (who funds and promotes Planned Parenthood) and its equipment and technology spinoff, Lucent. Lucent which means "light-bearing" in Latin, also has the connotation of Lucifer, "the light bearer" (from lux, 'light', and ferre, 'to bear'), who is also a character in Dante's epic poem Inferno. This was a big story back when Lucent was first named. Everyone was on the bandwagon that this was a Luciferian company. The Lucent logo, the Innovation Ring, was designed by Landor Associates, a prominent San Francisco-based branding consultancy. One source inside Lucent said that the logo is actually the Zen Buddhist symbol for "eternal truth"--the Enso--turned 90 degrees and modified. Another source says it represents the mythic ouroboros, a snake holding its tail in its mouth. Lucent's logo also has been said to represent constant re-creating and re-thinking. Carly Fiorina picked the logo because her mother was a painter and she rejected the sterile geometric logos of most high tech companies. The Lucent name and logo still give me the willies, and I remember all the info on it back in the 90s.

Hewlett-Packard

As chief executive officer of Hewlett-Packard (HP) from 1999 to 2005, she was the first woman to lead one of the top twenty U.S. companies. Fiorina received a larger signing offer than any of her predecessors, including: $65 million in stock, a $3 million signing bonus, a $1 million annual salary (plus a $1.25–3.75 million annual bonus), $36,000 in mortgage assistance, a relocation allowance, and permission (and encouragement) to use company planes for personal affairs. She was the first woman to lead a Fortune 20 company, and that is one huge accomplishment.

However, Fiorina instituted three major changes to HP's culture shortly after her arrival: a shift from nurturing employees to demanding financial performance, replacing profit sharing with bonuses awarded if the company met financial expectations, and a reduction in operating units from 83 to 4. There were mergers and sell offs, and she was booed at company meetings and attacked on HP's electronic bulletin board.

At HP, Carly presented herself as a realist regarding the effects of globalization. She was a strong proponent, along with other technology executives, of the expansion of the H-1B visa program. Fiorina responded against protectionism in an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, writing that while "America is the most innovative country," it would not remain so if the country were to "run away from the reality of the global economy."

Fiorina said to Congress in 2004: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation." While she argued that the only way to "protect U.S. high-tech jobs over the long haul was to become more competitive [in the United States]," her comments prompted "strong reactions" from some technology workers who argued that lower wages outside the United States encouraged the off shoring of American jobs. Because of changes to HP's culture, and requests for voluntary pay cuts to prevent layoffs (subsequently followed by the largest layoffs in HP's history), employee satisfaction surveys at HP—previously among the highest in America—revealed "widespread unhappiness" and distrust.

During Fiorina's time as CEO, HP's revenue doubled due to mergers with Compaq and other companies, and the rate of patent filings increased. However, the company reportedly underperformed in several areas: there were no gains in HP's net income, despite a 70% gain in net income of the S&P 500 over this period; the company's debt rose from ~4.25 billion USD to ~6.75 billion USD; and stock price fell by 50%, exceeding declines in the S&P 500 Information Technology Sector index and the NASDAQ.

In 2002, Carly was America's leading CEO for firing workers. As CEO of HP, she fired 33,000 workers according to the San Jose Mercury. She shipped American jobs to both India and China according to the Center for Industrial Competitiveness. Fiorina cut workers' salaries by $130 million while collecting $90 million for herself, according to the book, "Greed and Good." While other CEO's during the dot.com crisis took pay cuts, Carly Fiorina took a 231% raise, according to Executive Excess of 2003.

Loyalty was not among her high priorities, according to the book, "Backfire." While at HP, she traded with Iran in violation of U.S. trade sanctions by using a foreign entity. She has even praised and worked with, Jew hater - "Hymietown" - Jesse Jackson. (See here and here)

Business Week reported that she even hung her portrait in the lobby of HP. She also wanted HP to ship her yacht through the Panama Canal, reported the NYT's. Carly was called a flop and fired by the HP board, but collected $42 million in her "golden parachute" and $50,000 for career counseling. She also received a $200,000-a-year pension. Fiorina is rated one of the worst CEOs in history, along with Ken Lay of Enron.

Fiorina and McCain

After resigning from HP, Fiorina served on the boards of several organizations, and, during this time, she was recruited by John McCain as the top advisor for his Republican 2008 presidential campaign. In 2010, when Carly ran for the Senate against Barbara Boxer, McCain supported and campaigned for her. As far as I'm concerned, her relationship with leftist McCain should disqualify her as a presidential candidate. The Senator not only attended an Acorn rally, but has received funds in the past from a number of George Soros's shadowy organizations. (Source)

McCain is no conservative, he's a hard core neo-con Trotskyite. If you don't know what a Trotskyite is, read part 5 of my article on Senator Lamar Alexander.

Fiorina and the Hegelian Dialectic

In October of 2013, my friend Mary Thompson wrote an article in Newswithviews.com entitled, Hegelian Dialectic on the Right. In that article, Mary stated that the Fiorina known in Silicon Valley is no conservative, and that Carly worked with Arnold Schwarzenegger's transition team when he was elected governor, and we all know that Arnold, like McCain, is no conservative.

The article goes on to say that, apparently, Fiorina isn't much for voting, and that she only voted in five of the previous 18 elections. As well, "According to www.capoliticalnews.com, July 11, 2009, records showed that her Fiorina Foundation had never registered with the IRS or the state Attorney General's Charitable Trust division, which tax exempt charities are required to do."

Fiorina won the 2010 Republican Senate nomination in California, but lost to Barbara Boxer. The article states the reason why..." Fiorina's loss may have reflected the fact of her being possibly the most disliked person in the public eye after running the iconic Hewlett-Packard Corporation into the ground resulting in massive job losses. The family members of the founders of H-P refused to endorse her candidacy for Senate, they actively worked against her campaign by sending out letters explaining why."

All of the above is telling, but it is still minor compared to a speech delivered by Fiorina at the Progress and Freedom Foundation Seventh Annual Summit in Aspen, CO, in 2001. From Mary Thompson's article:

The San Jose Mercury reported: "Hewlett-Packard's Chief Executive Officer, Carly Fiorina, opened the conference with a scholarly address. She did not give interviews, but she did mention a reporter in her speech—a young guy who couldn't spell the name of the 19th Century philosopher, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (as in "Hegel you know, the process of Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis? I use it every day," said Fiorina)." (San Jose Mercury 8/27/2001-Jennifer Files reporter).

The San Jose Mercury published this writer's (Mary Thompson's) following letter to the editor in response to the article. (9/2/2001)

"Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina's reported 'Getaway to Aspen parallels valley lifestyle, mindset' makes an astonishing remark in her opening address to a recent conference of tech leaders in Aspen, Colorado. Hailing the philosophy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel's dialectic process, she claims to 'use it every day.' Karl Marx preached it, Nicolai Lenin implemented it in Russia in the early 20th Century, and now we have Hegel's dialectic preached and practiced in 21st Century high–tech industry. And all this time we were led to believe communism was dead!" —Mary Thompson

The reporter only touched the tip of the iceberg of the entire speech in which Fiorina elaborated re: her devotion the idea of the Hegelian Dialectic as a tool for decision making. She suggested the synthesis of the status of schools to be "charter schools." The entire speech is still available online.

Republican presidential hopeful Carly Fiorina's Hegelian Dialectical thinking process is highly flawed and immoral. It is not based upon absolutes. Note: Corrupt Government: Why?

I would urge everyone to read Mary Thompson's article, as it goes into detail on what the Hegelian Dialectic is and how it is used. Is Fiorina a Marxist? Maybe not, but she is using Marxist techniques, and why would a so-called conservative use the collectivist ideas of Hegel? I fully believe this woman is another leftist masquerading as a conservative Christian. Remember, too, that charter schools are tax-funded, but don't report to the local school boards. There you have it...taxation without representation!

Fiorina and Islam

Carly Fiorina chooses to believe that the Islamic Ottoman Empire was the greatest in the world. Like Chris Christie, she is snuggled with Islamists. In a speech that was given a mere two weeks after Islamic jihadists attacked America, the former HP chief executive officer gave a speech on technology, business, and our way of life. She glorified Islam and made only slight mention of European Christians and Jews having much to do with modern civilization.

I would urge you to read Fiorina, al-Mansour and the World Economic Forum, from 2010 on Canada Free Press by J.B. Williams. He states in this article:

Carly Fiorina sat on the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum, which has observer status with the United Nations Economic and Social Council.

Congressional support for global governance will not wane on Carly's watch. Agenda 21 and "sustainable development" are the new buzz words for "global socialism" through global governance and Carly sits on the Foundation Board at the mother ship.

We should be asking Carly to describe her long-term relationship with Dr. Khalid al-Mansour—aka Don Warden, Black Panther puppet master, Saudi Royal front-man and Obama education financier.

Fiorina sits on other Boards with al-Mansour, such as the African Leadership Academy. Al-Mansour, aka Don Warden, was the man behind the men of the Black Panther movement in the 1960s. He has long held hope for a "black nationalist" president, starting as far back as his relationship with Malcolm X. In fact, X died while speaking at one of al-Mansour's college campus rallies.

Also, please check out the article by Tim Brown on Freedom Outpost entitled Carly Fiorina: Islamic Civilization was "Greatest in the World." The author asks a great question at the end of the article, "So, Fiorina has promoted lies from an anti-Christ religion and culture. Is this really the kind of person conservatives, let alone Christians, should be getting behind? If she does this with Islam and history, what do you think her mindset would be when it comes to the Constitution?"

Conclusion

Carly Fiorina talks a good game for the electorate of America, but, in reality, she is another neo-conservative player who belongs more to the noxious left than to the old Constitutional right. She'll never get my vote.


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To: Above My Pay Grade

He hasn’t been a liberal all his life - that isn’t true at all. And, I do support Cruz - either one is fine with me. Some on here want to knock Trump in hopes that those of us who mildly or do support him, will see the error of our ways and vote for their candidate. That doesn’t work with me. I’d be quite okay with Cruz as president too.


41 posted on 08/14/2015 6:41:58 AM PDT by Catsrus (a and)
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To: HomerBohn

If you say Fiorina, McC, and Lamar! are no good, you must be right.


42 posted on 08/14/2015 6:54:05 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: 1010RD

“A serious politician can’t. That’s not how the game is played, FRiend. Red meat works for leading rats to water, but doesn’t win national elections.”

Where were you during and after the last two elections, the moon? All the things you say can’t work did and very well for Obama. We knew absolutely nothing about the man and he won; twice. At least we don’t have any illusions about Donald Trump. He’s an open book, warts and all. Therein lies his appeal to the American people who have been duped for so long.

Yes, Donald Trump knows how the game is played, from both sides and down the middle and has used it to his advantage. That’s why politicians on both sides are scared witless of him. Trump has never tried to make anyone think that he’s an ultra-conservative Bible-thumping Christian. In other words, he’s not a liar as we’ve become so accustomed to in our politics. He isn’t a “serious politician?” Well, personally, I’ve had my stomach full of those. I’ve seen enough of them to know just what being a “serious politician” really means and I’m ready for something completely different.


43 posted on 08/14/2015 7:03:27 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Thanks for the honesty. Trump is our Obama and at least you know you’re being played.


44 posted on 08/14/2015 7:10:55 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Honorary Serb

Agreed. HP made superior hardware until Carly took the reins. She’s a lot of fluff. As a female Republican voter, I’m not excited about her as a candidate although she’d make a good party spokesperson.


45 posted on 08/14/2015 7:14:56 AM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: DoughtyOne

*Ping* You asked on another thread why my HP alum father had such strong dislike for Carly Fiorina. The above description of her tenure there is the best summary I’ve seen.


46 posted on 08/14/2015 7:18:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: 1010RD

I continually make the mistake of telling the truth to the hopelessly entrenched. It never provides anything except some convoluted reason that anyone who disagrees is stupid. That’s a Liberal trait, not a Conservative one.

Trump is at the top of the heap at present. His supporters have other reasons besides thinking he’s conservative. Your segment’s very insistence on purity is the specific reason that we do have Obama and will most likely have a Socialist President very soon.


47 posted on 08/14/2015 7:33:52 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: HomerBohn

The Republican candidates have a number of liberals, but right now, especially with Trump, they are diluting each other, which is a good thing. Trump is forcing them to say where they stand on policy issues, which they *don’t* want to do.

And all of this is working in the favor of the conservatives.

Of course, the big spoiled oyster is Jeb Bush, but if he keeps being such a hoser, the establishment and liberal Republicans are going to feel forced to endorse one of the other liberals, resulting in a liberal bloodbath.

A lot of the candidates were actually running for cabinet seats, hoping to get enough backers to trade their votes for a Bush appointment. But if things keep on going this way, a lot of them are going to be in the unemployment line.

Because if a conservative wins, they are not going to get squat.


48 posted on 08/14/2015 7:43:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: HomerBohn

She’s not my first choice. In fact, she’s pretty far down on my list. If you (the author, not the poster) are going to attack her, please stick to more relevant issues than whether the name of a company she once worked for could be connected to a name used for the devil. Puh-leaze! I doubt she picked the name. I doubt the person (or committee) who picked it decided “hey, let’s name our company after satan, but in a cryptic way so we can serve him without anyone knowing about it.


49 posted on 08/14/2015 8:10:05 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: EnquiringMind

I also like the way she shredded Hitlery. I don’t want Fiorina to get the nomination, but I do think she could be useful as an attack dog (not meant disrespectfully). If the true conservative candidates really care about America, they will each do the best they can to stop the liberal agenda and support a strong, conservative nominee, whoever that is. (Not Bush.)


50 posted on 08/14/2015 8:15:12 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: HomerBohn
Business Week reported that she even hung her portrait in the lobby of HP.

How awful. Of course this disqualifies her. /sarc/

She's not my candidate, but this article has the credibility of a glass of piss.

51 posted on 08/14/2015 8:21:53 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:21)
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To: cripplecreek
No more or less than Donald Trump

Exactly. The first sentence of this piece renders it a joke.

Fiorina is no conservative. But neither is lifelong liberal Donald Trump.

52 posted on 08/14/2015 9:01:02 AM PDT by South40 (Ted Cruz -- the Conservative's Choice for 2016)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Donald Trump has by far the most Liberal record of all the GOP candidates.

Yes he does. But he's good at fooling the masses so he leads in the polls. That seems to be all it takes to win over this crowd.

53 posted on 08/14/2015 9:03:33 AM PDT by South40 (Ted Cruz -- the Conservative's Choice for 2016)
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To: exit82

When considering Jebra and Carlhe, I don’t think of her has a stalking horse for Jebra. I think of her as Jebra’s equal.

I don’t think the GOPe cares which one, just so long as it is one of them.


54 posted on 08/14/2015 9:54:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If the fetus at one minute old is not alive, what is it?)
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To: skeeter

Thanks for the link. That was a pretty good run-down on her.

The article seems to have swatted the bushes, because little creatures are scurrying every which direction because of it.

It’s truly amazing watching people display their thought processes sometimes.

This article causes some folks to hate Trump even more, and others to think that, “Yep, Carlhe’s my girl.”

Simply amazing.


55 posted on 08/14/2015 10:01:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If the fetus at one minute old is not alive, what is it?)
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To: HomerBohn

Sigh, another disappointment. Certainly agree with the words she speaks while listening to her. Believed her to be in the same category of conservative thinkers. Finding far too many strikes against her, will not waste the time in thinking what might have been. Interesting read and most enlightening. Thanks for taking the time to post.


56 posted on 08/14/2015 11:49:31 AM PDT by V K Lee
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To: C. Edmund Wright; 1010RD; sickoflibs
Very ironic that the author seems to support Trump for prez but it very “concerned” about Carly’s past dalliances with liberalism. Hmmm....

Indeed. Anyone low on her her and high on Trump is failing to be logically consistent.

57 posted on 08/14/2015 4:51:07 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Trump said he loved Canada’s healthcare system and thought we should do the same. How is it you think if Trump wins you won’t have a socialist president?

I don’t believe Trump has any core guiding principles short of selling himself. That’s why one year Canada is an example of what we need to do and a year or two later he wants the “free market” to run our healthcare.

He can’t have it both ways no matter how hard he tries.

He could have just as easily run as a Democrat and he’d be saying all the right things for that run...


58 posted on 08/15/2015 2:45:11 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

I’ll add one more thing.

I think Trump ran as a Republican because he figured after 8 years of Obama a Democrat couldn’t win the White House again this go around.

So he made his bet and is playing the part.

That’s my 2 cents...


59 posted on 08/15/2015 2:51:27 AM PDT by DB
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To: HomerBohn

I agree Fiorina is not for us

But Ted Cruz also calls for H1-B expansion

A death knell for our nation.....far worse than the illegals issue

I hope Trump listens to Sessions this weekend.....Jeff and Levin are out front on too much legal immigration

I think Ted is listening to Goldie Sachs wifey on this

Pity......coulda been real 100%

only issue I have with CRUZ but it’s big


60 posted on 08/15/2015 2:54:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (My ears are bleeding....FOX ..all I hear are shrill high pitched whiney women taking over each other)
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