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Legal Immigration: Where Trump and Cruz Radically Disagree
Breitbart ^ | August 21, 2015 | staff

Posted on 08/21/2015 6:43:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: kabar

Excellent reply.

Covers and buries the bs thesis of this oped!


21 posted on 08/21/2015 7:08:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Say what you will about The Donald! He has all the right enemies!)
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To: mrsmith
Since ending illegal immigration will require ‘some’ increase in legal immigration with our demographics I don’t see a real point here.

Are you serious? We have the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years. The native born are seeing decreased employment across all age groups. We have a surplus of labor and we don't need more legal immigration. We bring in 1.1 million LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS A YEAR and 640,000 guest workers annually. They are taking American jobs and depressing wages.


22 posted on 08/21/2015 7:08:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker has not been in the lead. If he had been, he would be on top of the polls. Trump put immigration front and center in his campaign. Walker has been too timid. Now he is being forced to be the “Me Too” candidate. I guess George Will’s wife has had too much influence in his campaign. Will is a big amnesty supporter.


23 posted on 08/21/2015 7:11:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That is one if my two reasons for backing Trump over Cruz (the other is electability). 1 million+ legal immigrants every year is insane. That is more than the 1907 peak at Ellis Island, when the cities desperately needed new immigrants. With massive unemployment, entitlement overloads and coming wave of automation, America does not need and cannot support more legal immigrants.


24 posted on 08/21/2015 7:11:59 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: Liz

>> Yet his family bgrnd indicates he’s only 1/3 latino <<

One-third? I believe that’s mathematically impossible. But if you can persuade me otherwise, please have at it.


25 posted on 08/21/2015 7:12:28 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: kabar

Right....

: )

Lol


26 posted on 08/21/2015 7:12:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: montag813

How do Trump’s tweets (post #2) square with this?


27 posted on 08/21/2015 7:13:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It’s good that Trump is following Sessions’ and Walker’s lead on this.

They're both following Sessions' lead, as is most everyone who is suddenly seeing the light on this issue (and maybe finally listening to the American citizens instead of Big Donors).

28 posted on 08/21/2015 7:14:36 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Hawthorn

Cruz’s mother has two nationalities-—one from each parent.


29 posted on 08/21/2015 7:15:55 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Will88

Scott Walker was talking about this back in April - 3 months before he announced his presidential run in mid-July.


30 posted on 08/21/2015 7:17:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cripplecreek

Part of Trump plan is to increase wages of foreign workers and make companies look for citizen workers already here that are qualified before hiring the visa holders.


31 posted on 08/21/2015 7:18:00 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: lodi90

Thank you for pointing that out. I did not know about Walker.


32 posted on 08/21/2015 7:18:36 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nice try


33 posted on 08/21/2015 7:19:16 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Something Rick Santorum said this morning caught my eye as well.

He said we need 1 million immigrants per year then went on to whine that Ted Cruz wants to increase the number by 500% which ends up being less than half of what Santorum said we need.

While I’m not thrilled with the Ted Cruz increase in H1b visas I do know that he ties it to enforcement of existing laws requiring that Americans be hired first. Another issue that nobody talks about is how many degree holders our colleges produce who are unprepared for the workplace. (Too much socializing and not enough learning)

That said, I’m not going to beat up on any of the arguable conservatives in the race. My primary concern is still taking out Bush.


34 posted on 08/21/2015 7:20:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: kabar

10 to 30 million illegal workers.
Stick that in any of your charts.

The Baby Boom actually happened. I know.


35 posted on 08/21/2015 7:21:28 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Rusty0604

Which is exactly what Ted Cruz has said about H1b visa holders. Hire Americans first and pay H1b holders the same as Americans.


36 posted on 08/21/2015 7:23:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek
While I’m not thrilled with the Ted Cruz increase in H1b visas I do know that he ties it to enforcement of existing laws requiring that Americans be hired first.

A fact that is conveniently cast aside by the anti-Cruz hair burners.

37 posted on 08/21/2015 7:23:42 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Walker has never made immigration the centerpiece of his campaign. The GOPe led by fellow Wisconsin born RNC chair Priebus have tried to keep immigration as a low profile issue, which they view as a loser for the GOP. The GOPe supports amnesty and increased guest worker programs.

Walker is being forced to come out of the closet on the immigration issue. I doubt he will be as forthright and bold as Trump who has put out the most detailed plan about immigration. Santorum is the only one to have done something similar. So where is the Walker position paper on immigration? Give me a link.

38 posted on 08/21/2015 7:24:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It’s good that Trump is following Sessions’ and Walker’s lead on this.

Sessions has leading on immigration and amnesty issues since at least 2006. Walker was for amnesty only a few months ago.

39 posted on 08/21/2015 7:25:40 AM PDT by Will88
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To: lodi90

How the Republicans handled TPA was my final straw. The GOPe is worse than Dems at this point. Cruz has been “playing the game” to some degree, while throwing red meat to his base on the side. Even if you are a true conservative, you’ve had to walk a tightrope if you hold office in this political climate. Trump has drawn a line in the sand that every Republican, whether candidate or not, has to address. We are all watching them now. I hope Cruz fully comes around. But I still remember his wife’s recent statement that every person up on the debate stage with him, he would consider for a cabinet position in a Cruz administration. I think it was a very telling slip of the tongue.


40 posted on 08/21/2015 7:26:54 AM PDT by ballearthout
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